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    Re: Would You Take a Free Trip to Paris?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Playing tourist isn't something I particularly care to do and while each big city offers what it offers, personally I enjoy it more when we fit in and can interact/talk with other people. What does Paris really offer that a person has to go there to see that is so superior?
    The challenges of being a tourist, I've found, is avoiding being corralled into all the safe, white establishments along with the rest of the Americans by the hotels and guides. Planning your trip in advance with tripadvisor is a huge tool for this. On one particularly frustrating trip, I saw the same exact Americans in the same restaurants six times. That taught me and my wife to never take the advice of concierges ever again.

    That being said, sometimes a city can be sufficiently complex and alien enough that the benefits of hiring a guide outweighs being led around to all the businesses he gets a percentage from for taking paying tourists to them.

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    Re: Would You Take a Free Trip to Paris?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Yeah, it's pretty pathetic, eh?

    I couldn't believe a couple people said "I'm just not big into travelling." How can that be? How can you have no innate human curiosity about what another place is like?

    Not to mention the one or two idiots who said "Only to bomb it" or something like that. Hell, I think the world would be better off if most of America besides New England, California and the Great Lakes just combusted, but I would never advocate bombing those places out of political disagreement.
    We travel some, but I'm not big into traveling. To travel really far to see something different when we can travel not so far, see something different, and have more time doing so for not traveling so far. A person can look at videos and pictures to see other places. And if a person is going somewhere you don't speak the language nor know the layout and demeanor of the place, there is no way to not play the tourist role and a person can get themselves into trouble too.

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    Re: Would You Take a Free Trip to Paris?

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    The Louvre museum was one of the most grotesk sights I ever had in my life.

    It cemented my opinion that mankind didn`t know how to appreciate art, when I watched hundreds of people buy expensive tickets and crowd up for hours to make one single picture of a Mona Lisa hidden behind thick glass.

    And to then simply leave the museum after having made that pick.........

    Whilest some of the most impressive and amazing European artworks of the past 800 years, stolen by Napoleon between 1792 and 1812 from all over the continent and beyond was on display just a few more steps away.

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    I honestly didn't even make it to the Mona Lisa until like 5 minutes before close.

    There's actually a lot of great artwork at the Louvre.

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    Re: Would You Take a Free Trip to Paris?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The challenges of being a tourist, I've found, is avoiding being corralled into all the safe, white establishments along with the rest of the Americans by the hotels and guides. Planning your trip in advance with tripadvisor is a huge tool for this. On one particularly frustrating trip, I saw the same exact Americans in the same restaurants six times. That taught me and my wife to never take the advice of concierges ever again.

    That being said, sometimes a city can be sufficiently complex and alien enough that the benefits of hiring a guide outweighs being led around to all the businesses he gets a percentage from for taking paying tourists to them.
    You nailed it.

    Lonely Planet is way better than tripadvisor for this, too.
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    Re: Would You Take a Free Trip to Paris?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I honestly didn't even make it to the Mona Lisa until like 5 minutes before close.

    There's actually a lot of great artwork at the Louvre.
    I haven't made it to the Louvre myself, and admittedly I'm already daunted by the rumors of how unwieldy it is due to the throngs of tourists. There are still some pretty awesome places you can go in Europe that haven't been utterly crapped out by tourists, St. Petersburg being an excellent example, probably because Russia is still such a pain in the ass to get a visa to.
    Last edited by Cardinal; 01-11-14 at 12:49 PM.

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    Re: Would You Take a Free Trip to Paris?

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    You nailed it.

    Lonely Planet is way better than tripadvisor for this, too.
    Forgot about lonely planet. That's absolutely right.

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    Re: Would You Take a Free Trip to Paris?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    This is a fascinating response -- please tell me more. To be honest, I can't imagine someone not being interested in history, especially European history -- if you could, could you tell me why it doesn't appeal to you?
    I would say the appeal is not there simply because I am more interested in relaxation when I am on vacation. I'm not all that big into sight seeing or history lessons while trying to relax. Additionally I am not all that comfortable around big crowds so seeing the major tourist ( Historic ) sights would likely make me even more uneasy.

    Nothing against those regions at all. I am certain there are some very fascinating places to see. Just not my idea of a relaxing time. Now if I was in the region for work or study, then I would def take in the sights. I would be more interested in seeing Scotland or Ireland than Paris. But if I had my choice I would take an isolated island with a hut to stay in! Either that or a log cabin in the mountains somewhere completely shut out from the rest of the world.

    Sounds weird I know but when I think of vacation I think of relaxation. When I think of relaxation I think of getting away from the norm.

    Hope that makes sense?

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    Re: Would You Take a Free Trip to Paris?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I haven't made it to the Louvre myself, and admittedly I'm already daunted by the rumors of how unwieldy it is due to the throngs of tourists. There are still some pretty awesome places you can go in Europe that haven't been utterly crapped out by tourists, St. Petersburg being an excellent example, probably because Russia is still such a pain in the ass to get a visa to.
    I lucked out and made it into town on a Thursday, so the crowds really weren't that bad at all. I thought about visiting the Eiffel Tower after I finished with the Louvre, but I was tired, so I opted to just have dinner and turn in for the night instead.

    That turned out to be a mistake. When I tried again on Friday, there was like a four hour wait just to get in line.

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    Re: Would You Take a Free Trip to Paris?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I lucked out and made it into town on a Thursday, so the crowds really weren't that bad at all. I thought about visiting the Eiffel Tower after I finished with the Louvre, but I was tired, so I opted to just have dinner and turn in for the night instead.

    That turned out to be a mistake. When I tried again on Friday, there was like a four hour wait just to get in line.
    Unfortunately there are a lot of places in Europe that have become little different than Disneyland. On one recent visit to a European city I genuinely got the impression that at the end of the day not only would the visitors leave to go home for the day, but so would its own residents. It was near impossible to think of the city as a place where natives lived out their own lives outside of their role of servicing tourists. I'll still go to Paris though because, you know, Paris.

    Anyway, point taken: visit on a Monday.
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    Re: Would You Take a Free Trip to Paris?

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