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    Re: Has "Bridgegate" eliminated Chris Christie's chances for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    He claims he had nothing to do with the bridge closure, it was his aide that did it.

    Yes, He's toast

    No, he's still in the running

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    Not really since he had nothing to do with it and he is handling it very well.

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    Re: Has "Bridgegate" eliminated Chris Christie's chances for president?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post

    blacks and minorites will not support Clinton the way they did Obama
    It is hard to tell at this point. It probably all depends on who the candidate is the Republicans choose. Historically since 1964 until Obama blacks voted 90% in favor the Democratic Party. That percentage rose to approximately 95% in 2008 and 2012. In 2016 it will probably drop back to around the historical average of 90%. In 2012 Blacks made up 12.5% of the electorate, 95% of those voted for Obama or 11.875% of the electorate and 0.625% voted Republican. Back to normal levels which is bound to happen doesn't mean much of a gain for the Republicans or a loss to the Democrats. Instead of receiving 11.875% the Democrats will receive 11.25% and the republicans 1.25% of the electorate. That is a whopping 0.625% difference or in total votes from 2012 of 762,500 out of 122,000,000. Blacks cast approximately 15,250,000 votes in 2012 of which 14,488,000 went to Obama. If Obama received the historical average of 90% of the black vote he would have gotten 13,725,000 instead of the 14,488,000.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Has "Bridgegate" eliminated Chris Christie's chances for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Christie was superb today: honest, forthright and accountable. I will support him for POTUS in 2016.


    I believe him too, simply because I don't think he is that stupid..

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    Re: Has "Bridgegate" eliminated Chris Christie's chances for president?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post

    It is hard to tell at this point. It probably all depends on who the candidate is the Republicans choose. Historically since 1964 until Obama blacks voted 90% in favor the Democratic Party. That percentage rose to approximately 95% in 2008 and 2012. In 2016 it will probably drop back to around the historical average of 90%. In 2012 Blacks made up 12.5% of the electorate, 95% of those voted for Obama or 11.875% of the electorate and 0.625% voted Republican. Back to normal levels which is bound to happen doesn't mean much of a gain for the Republicans or a loss to the Democrats. Instead of receiving 11.875% the Democrats will receive 11.25% and the republicans 1.25% of the electorate. That is a whopping 0.625% difference or in total votes from 2012 of 762,500 out of 122,000,000. Blacks cast approximately 15,250,000 votes in 2012 of which 14,488,000 went to Obama. If Obama received the historical average of 90% of the black vote he would have gotten 13,725,000 instead of the 14,488,000.
    This actually reminds me of something that has bugged me for awhile now...

    Why does such a large percentage of black persons vote democrat?
    Education.

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    Re: Has "Bridgegate" eliminated Chris Christie's chances for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't know, I watched him on CNN and listened to a couple of their pundits. They think he did the right thing in apologizing and firing the guy. They also think he is home free unless another smoking gun is found that ties it directly to him. At least as far as they are concerned, the bridge closing is behind him. For now as they put it. I tend to believe them. I know democrats will try to tar him for this and republicans will say it is no big deal, he's innocent and just a product of a democratic witch hunt. But I am not sure how independents will view this whole thing.

    But I will worry about independents later. I am still not sure if Christie can win in the Republican primaries and all of this is moot if he doesn't. Christie probably has more to worry about him embracing President Obama in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy than the bridge closing.


    Ummmm and you don't think that there may be certain Republican presidential hopefuls that would love to see him ruined??

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    Re: Has "Bridgegate" eliminated Chris Christie's chances for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Personally, I don't think anyone in D.C. is "in touch".

    But the democrats seem more willing to listen and pretend to care about things that make them seem more in touch. Whatever their staff says will look good under casual scrutiny, probably.

    Republicans tend to either follow their personal beliefs (not necessarily religious, you understand) more, and thus appear to disregard "the people" a bit more - depending who you selectively call "the people" in a given conversation.


    Then of course there are the propaganda agencies of both parties - the Democrat propaganda system seems better at it's job.....
    I mean the "news" agencies, of course.

    This obviously means that the spin on democrat actions is usually better when it shows up in the news.



    I pretty much agree with what you are saying here.

    What we have in Washington, D.C. is pretty much the same thing that we've had since 2008, meaning that it's not all that great for the USA and its people.

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    Re: Has "Bridgegate" eliminated Chris Christie's chances for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    It just solidifies his candidacy as a democrat! Please encourage him to switch parties so he can be where he belongs.
    Typical Republican-speak. When your guy gets caught, just transform him into a Dem.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Has "Bridgegate" eliminated Chris Christie's chances for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Personally, I don't think anyone in D.C. is "in touch".

    But the democrats seem more willing to listen and pretend to care about things that make them seem more in touch. Whatever their staff says will look good under casual scrutiny, probably.

    Republicans tend to either follow their personal beliefs (not necessarily religious, you understand) more, and thus appear to disregard "the people" a bit more - depending who you selectively call "the people" in a given conversation.


    Then of course there are the propaganda agencies of both parties - the Democrat propaganda system seems better at it's job.....
    I mean the "news" agencies, of course.

    This obviously means that the spin on democrat actions is usually better when it shows up in the news.
    The Dems are better on social issues. Both parties are disasters on economics.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Has "Bridgegate" eliminated Chris Christie's chances for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Adding "-gate" to ever scandal is really getting old.
    Absolutely. I also think most people stop listening when they hear it.

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    Re: Has "Bridgegate" eliminated Chris Christie's chances for president?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Democratic strategist, Bob Shrum said earlier, that he thought this controversy and the way Christie handled it will help him.
    Democrats LOVE Christie. He should be able to win the DEMOCRATIC primary for president hands down for their incessant raving praises about him.

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