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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    We need a 20% additional tax on millionaires and billionaires to completely fund it. It's ungodly how much these CEO's make.... trust me they can afford to have their salaries slashed by 20 percent so that the poorest Americans can live a decent life.
    Then you can go to them personally and ask them for the money.

    You tell them that YOU have decided that they are overpaid, and they need to give the money back.

    Put your money where YOUR mouth is and use your own money to finance everyone else's pay increase.

    Your money - not somebody else's money.
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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Only children are truly entitled to a minimal living standard, and the guardians have the responsibility of fulfilling this entitlement, as well as providing for themselves. It's what makes an adult an adult (and this applies to virtually all species) -- the ability and will to meet its needs without relying on its parents or some other provider to feed and take care of it.



    No it's not inhuman, it's a reflection of the right of the people to trade with one another.
    What is more precious, humanity or money? Every person needs to decide for themselves which of the two they value more. Human beings are social - we need each other to survive. There's not a single millionaire or billionaire that did it all on their own.

    While there is no disputing capitalism's role in generating wealth, we need to acknowledge that if left unchecked, it creates huge disparities between the have's and have not's.

    We need to manage that so that the wealth created by capitalism can benefit every human being.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Don't retreat to an appeal to ridicule. Children deserve to be taken care of, therefore it is irresponsible to create them before you obtain the means of caring (including providing) for them. It's really beyond argument.
    Can you give an example of someone not providing for their children? Do you mean by letting them die of starvation? Do you mean by allowing your kids to sleep outside? Do you mean by having naked kids because you don't obtain clothes for them? I rarely hear of these things happening in the United States. I think people are taking care of their children. Have you really seen a kid go without in this country?

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Then you can go to them personally and ask them for the money.

    You tell them that YOU have decided that they are overpaid, and they need to give the money back.

    Put your money where YOUR mouth is and use your own money to finance everyone else's pay increase.

    Your money - not somebody else's money.
    I'm not the government. What you're describing is the government's role, which in our case is elected.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    We need to manage that so that the wealth created by capitalism can benefit every human being.
    How wonderfully contradictory. Next you'll encourage genocide to ensure peace.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    What is more precious, humanity or money?
    What on Earth kind of question is that? That has nothing to do with minimum wage analysis. We don't decide social and economic policies based on what's "precious."

    Every person needs to decide for themselves which of the two they value more. Human beings are social - we need each other to survive. There's not a single millionaire or billionaire that did it all on their own.
    No, they did it by trading with others, which people are and should be free to do.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I'm not the government. What you're describing is the government's role, which in our case is elected.
    Typical bull****.

    Your free to spend somebody else's money, but not yours.

    Exactly what I figured.
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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Middle-class people "can afford" to have their salaries cut too. Let's just take everyone making 50K and tax them 10K. They can still live a "decent life".

    Sorry, but I don't condone punishing success. Your view of millionaires comes off as nothing more than petty jealousy.
    However my view of millionaires may come across, it's indisputable that taking $10,000 from someone making $50,000/yr is going to make a bigger impact on that person's life than taxing the top earners 20 percent.

    Just so you know though, I come from a family of millionaires and am quite well off myself, so it's really not about jealousy at all.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Can you give an example of someone not providing for their children? Do you mean by letting them die of starvation? Do you mean by allowing your kids to sleep outside? Do you mean by having naked kids because you don't obtain clothes for them? I rarely hear of these things happening in the United States. I think people are taking care of their children. Have you really seen a kid go without in this country?
    Whoa. This displays serious naiveté. Every state has child protective service agencies/departments and, as far as I've seen, they're usually swamped with reports of harm and neglect of children. Children are taken out of their parents' custody daily across the nation. The fact that welfare programs excuse millions of parents from having to directly provide for their children is not the same as overt abuse or neglect, but it's nonetheless somewhat of a failure of the parent to provide for the child. There is no good reason to continue producing children without the means to adequately care for them.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    However my view of millionaires may come across, it's indisputable that taking $10,000 from someone making $50,000/yr is going to make a bigger impact on that person's life than taxing the top earners 20 percent.

    Just so you know though, I come from a family of millionaires and am quite well off myself, so it's really not about jealousy at all.
    Then, by all means, give of yourself. That's a better solution than your idea of legalized theft.

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