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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Well that's true, you have to not only work hard, but work hard doing something the society around you values, and you also have to save some of what you earn, i.e. to consume less than what you earn. Hard work is just one required element of building wealth.
    Absolutely, though I'm confident that some people that currently earn outrageous amounts of money (professional football or soccer players, etch) should be paid an average wage, I'm not so sure about artists and jobs that do not produce quantifiable products, what would be a fair wage for them? In my country, we subsidize artists to a large degree but it has become a widely debated issue as of late.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric7216 View Post
    Hard to compare numbers. The average US household in the lowest quintile, which would include some minimum wage earners, gets $22,700 in net government assistance on top of their earned income while even low paid Norwegians pay a 28% tax rate (after subtracting 36% deductible plus 42,210 NOK (about $7,000). So a person making $15,000 would pay c. $700 in taxes.
    Cost of living is much higher in Norway too.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGruvu View Post
    Absolutely, though I'm confident that some people that currently earn outrageous amounts of money (professional football or soccer players, etch) should be paid an average wage,
    You can't control that. Take the best soccer player in the world and require he be paid no more than 5 figures per year. Big deal. He won't care. Because how do you forbid companies across the globe from giving the guy money in return for agreeing to wear or endorse their products? You can't control this without creating an totalitarian one-world government.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGruvu View Post
    You are correct. No matter how just or equal the society is, it will never be perfect, but many people have realized that the struggle has been worth the effort nonetheless. Many countries in the world have become considerably more fair, equal and richer than the US because their governments actually did a good job. I would like to know why you think the government is by necessity, completely inept at improving any situation, as We have had the exact opposite experience here in Scandinavia.
    Define "fair."

    Define "equal."

    Define "rich."
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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    We have quite efficiently forbidden murder and other acts deemed criminal on the grounds that we consider them wrong. One day public consciousness will hopefully developed to the point that we can criminalize any immoral behavior without having to resort to totalitarianism.
    Though, when the Norwegian labor party decided to out-conservative the conservative party, I started wondering if we can ever achieve a socialist state democratically.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGruvu View Post
    The current American federal minimum wage is 7.25$ per hour, while an adult cleaner in Norway can't legally be paid less than 161,17nok per hour, which equals 26,09$, or 3,6 times the American federal minimum wage.
    Well the cost of living in Norway is also exponentially more. Norway also has large amount of cash to spend on welfare and subsides.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    In this context, it would probably be:
    fair; that a person gets either punitively or beneficially, what he deserves based on his actions, intentions, efforts, etc.
    equal; there is less difference between social classes in terms of wealth and how they are treated by the law and society in general.
    richer; possess more money, or have a better standard of living.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGruvu View Post
    One day public consciousness will hopefully developed to the point that we can criminalize any immoral behavior without having to resort to totalitarianism.
    Making "immoral"=illegal opens up a bag of cats.
    Law becomes arbitrary, not about protecting people, but making people do what is "right".
    The interpretation would vary based on city, county, state. Things like getting the most you can back from tax time could be looked at differently by different state judges because the federal returns are often used to calculate state returns, and state politics.
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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    I am sorry, I really shouldn't have used the word "Immoral", but rather "behavior regarded as malicious and harmful to society to the point of being criminal". The point I was trying to get across was; there is no reason to resort to totalitarianism, as law enforcement seems to be functioning perfectly fine.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGruvu View Post
    I am sorry, I really shouldn't have used the word "Immoral", but rather "behavior regarded as malicious and harmful to society to the point of being criminal". The point I was trying to get across was; there is no reason to resort to totalitarianism, as law enforcement seems to be functioning perfectly fine.
    behavior regarded as malicious and harmful to society to the point of being criminal=illegal. We are already there. Rereading indicates you agree.
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