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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    The protection of property rights and individual liberty damages nobody.
    That's another nonsense, blanket statement. Of course some people are damaged when others are protected. That's the nature of all law. A very easy case in which to see this:
    A person is starving, no one will give them food or offer them employment so they can buy food. The protection of another's property from them is fatal, the starving person will die. Can't have much more harm than death.




    Does that mean our current laws allows a starving person to steal? No, because in this country we have government security nets that provide for people who are starving.
    Of course, those green colored glasses of yours make taxes "stealing", so in your little, green Dreamland, yes, starving people are "allowed to steal" to survive - because they have no alternative.
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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I have no sympathy for fry cooks with liberal arts degrees. They deserve the hellish, abject poverty they get.
    I have no sympathy for anything "liberal" whether it be in the noun or adjective form and hopefully someday soon will only be found in the archaic form_
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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    I have no sympathy for anything "liberal" whether it be in the noun or adjective form and hopefully someday soon will only be found in the archaic form_
    It's just a term.

    Even if it falls out of use, there will always be persons who think in similar fashion. Probably.
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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    "Give your geographical location"

    You can't make me.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    I have no sympathy for anything "liberal" whether it be in the noun or adjective form and hopefully someday soon will only be found in the archaic form_
    And so it shall. Right alongside 'Conservative'.

    Both of these self-indulgences are bound for extinction. Cons first, then Libs. The Centrists will be ineffectual but useful serfs, employed in low-level administrative capacities. You mark me.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie Loucks View Post
    "Give your geographical location"

    You can't make me.
    The electronic voting machines in my area do not ask for my location. They probably know already, of course.
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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Virtually everyone is damaged by a lack of worker laws.
    Not true. Nobody's body is damaged. Nobody's property is damaged.

    No damage occurs.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    That's another nonsense, blanket statement. Of course some people are damaged when others are protected. That's the nature of all law. A very easy case in which to see this:
    A person is starving, no one will give them food or offer them employment so they can buy food.
    Nobody has violated his body or property. There is no malfeasor in the scenario you describe.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Not true. Nobody's body is damaged. Nobody's property is damaged. No damage occurs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Nobody has violated his body or property. There is no malfeasor in the scenario you describe.
    I never said their was a violation of body or property - but Death is obviously "damage" and that's what occurred because someone else's property was protected.

    Very few things are only good - most things are double-edged to some extent. Laws are no different, they give and they take at the same time.
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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I never said their was a violation of body or property - but Death is obviously "damage" and that's what occurred because someone else's property was protected.
    If you can't identify a malfeasor, then you can't claim that anyone harmed him.

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