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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, but it's not supposed to be. Minimum wage is supposed to be the lowest-end jobs, designed to give high school and college kids who have no real financial responsibilities, the ability to learn a work ethic and gain job skills so they can be promoted to better jobs down the line. They are not intended to raise a family on and anyone who tries to do so is a complete idiot.
    What a complete load of horse ****. I often see that lie posted by minimum wage opponents. So I did some looking around.
    Minimum wage | LII / Legal Information Institute
    The national minimum wage was created by Congress under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) in 1938. Congress enacted this legislation under its Constitutional grant of authority to regulate interstate commerce. FLSA was a comprehensive federal scheme which provided for minimum wages, overtime pay, record keeping requirements, and child labor regulations. The purpose of the minimum wage was to stabilize the post-depression economy and protect the workers in the labor force. The minimum wage was designed to create a minimum standard of living to protect the health and well-being of employees. Others have argued that the primary purpose was to aid the lowest paid of the nation's working population, those who lacked sufficient bargaining power to secure for themselves a minimum subsistence wage.
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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Demanding that minimum wage give you everything you could possibly want is just another symptom - and more proof - of the entitlement system we live in.

    Economic liberals can't push themselves forward, so they'd rather pull everyone else back.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    Let's not draw generalizations. Some people who work minimum wage have college degrees, and simply can't apply said degree in the local area. Others have been laid off, forced to work minimum wage to support their family until they find another job opportunity. Some have families who cannot afford to pay for college, and are stuck working minimum wage for several years just to make enough to get started. Others are kicked out of the house by their parents, find themselves with no financial backing for college, and work minimum wage as the only source of income for subsistence. Some work minimum wage because they enjoy the job, very rare, yes. How is anyone trying to raise a family on minimum wage an "idiot"? Asides from assigning the pejorative to them due to the futility of their struggle.
    Aside from assigning any perjoritives, anyone who has a degree and has settled for a minimum wage job while trying to raise a family is, well, and idiot.

    No perjoritive intended.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    Let's not draw generalizations. Some people who work minimum wage have college degrees, and simply can't apply said degree in the local area. Others have been laid off, forced to work minimum wage to support their family until they find another job opportunity. Some have families who cannot afford to pay for college, and are stuck working minimum wage for several years just to make enough to get started. Others are kicked out of the house by their parents, find themselves with no financial backing for college, and work minimum wage as the only source of income for subsistence. Some work minimum wage because they enjoy the job, very rare, yes. How is anyone trying to raise a family on minimum wage an "idiot"? Asides from assigning the pejorative to them due to the futility of their struggle.
    Then they should move. People need to make intelligent decisions about what degrees they get. You're just making excuses for people making irresponsible decisions and none of that changes anything. A person doesn't need a college degree to get promoted. Even someone working at Walmart, the liberal's favorite whipping horse, can start off as a minimum wage cashier and get promoted into management from within, completely without a degree. In fact, I think Walmart even helps with college tuition, lots of big companies do, because they want you to better yourself. So why are there so many Walmart cashiers that remain in the same position for years or decades at a time? Whose fault is that? Certainly not Walmart's.

    And how are these people idiots? Because people need to be responsible for their own life decisions and not do things they cannot afford. If you cannot afford to have children, you shouldn't have children. If you cannot afford to be married, you should not be married. Just because you want to do a thing doesn't mean it's responsible to do that thing. It's a bit different if you were financially well off, married with children, and then the economy tanked and you were forced to take a lower paying job. I get that. I'm talking about people who have NEVER had a good job, yet acted irresponsibly anyhow.
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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What a complete load of horse ****. I often see that lie posted by minimum wage opponents. So I did some looking around.
    Minimum wage | LII / Legal Information Institute
    The national minimum wage was created by Congress under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) in 1938. Congress enacted this legislation under its Constitutional grant of authority to regulate interstate commerce. FLSA was a comprehensive federal scheme which provided for minimum wages, overtime pay, record keeping requirements, and child labor regulations. The purpose of the minimum wage was to stabilize the post-depression economy and protect the workers in the labor force. The minimum wage was designed to create a minimum standard of living to protect the health and well-being of employees. Others have argued that the primary purpose was to aid the lowest paid of the nation's working population, those who lacked sufficient bargaining power to secure for themselves a minimum subsistence wage.
    Where did any of that alter what I said? Nowhere in there does it mention a living wage. Come on, you're supposed to be a conservative, that means you're supposed to support personal responsibility for one's actions. I just don't see that.
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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, but it's not supposed to be. Minimum wage is supposed to be the lowest-end jobs, designed to give high school and college kids who have no real financial responsibilities, the ability to learn a work ethic and gain job skills so they can be promoted to better jobs down the line. They are not intended to raise a family on and anyone who tries to do so is a complete idiot.
    Anybody who is out of touch with reality is an idiot.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Anybody who is out of touch with reality is an idiot.
    Certainly, as is anyone who doesn't think they need to be personally and financially responsible for their own lives. We need to live in the real world in a self-sustaining system, regardless of what makes people feel good.
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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    anyone who has a degree and has settled for a minimum wage job while trying to raise a family is, well, and idiot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Accepting a minimum wage job but then adopting the opinion that it should, for some reason, pay well enough to earn a living and raise a family… also idiotic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    People that have kids while working minimum wage jobs are the idiots.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    They are not intended to raise a family on and anyone who tries to do so is a complete idiot.
    News Flash to all idiots
    When people are given the choice between earning $15,080 per year and $50,000 per year they will choose the job paying $50,000 per year. Also nobody has a crystal ball. Nobody knows what the future holds. (There are four exceptions: Cephus, Ocean515, Neomalthusian or Rocketman all know every single thing.) It is possible to make $50,000 for 10 years and then get laid off because the company closed. Making $0 instead of $15,080 just to avoid being labelled an idiot by Cephus, Ocean515, Neomalthusian or Rocketman would be a poor decision.
    News Flash to all idiots

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Assuming a 40 hour work week, is minimum wage a lot of money?
    I believe minimum wage in AMERICA is very little money, and we should ask WHY - the cost of everything due to enslavement of the nation by liberals as much as conservatives - in some countries you can live on a minimum wage like a king, and certain class of billionaires are creating these situations so they can profit from the poor.

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    Re: Is minimum wage a lot?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    News Flash to all idiots
    When people are given the choice between earning $15,080 per year and $50,000 per year will choose the job paying $50,000 per year. Also nobody has a crystal ball. It is possible to make $50,000 for 10 years and then get laid off because the company closed. Making $0 instead of $15,080 just to avoid being labelled an idiot by Cephus, Ocean515, Neomalthusian or Rocket man would be a poor decision.
    News Flash to all idiots
    Of course, I've said that I'm only addressing people who have never had a decent paying job and have still made irresponsible decisions, not those who got into that position through events beyond their control. But sure, call me an idiot.
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