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Thread: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

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    re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    No one on 8 pages of posts brought up race. No one. Until you.
    So if we don't talk about hunger, everyone will be well-fed?
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    re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    So if we don't talk about hunger, everyone will be well-fed?
    Slightly more people will be fed that way than if you make a law saying everyone has a right to be fed.

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    re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Slightly more people will be fed that way than if you make a law saying everyone has a right to be fed.
    More lies and strawmen. How typical.
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    re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    These beliefs are why I'm very happy with courts blocking majority rule where those laws are unconstitutional.
    There is no particularly compelling reason to suppose why such laws would be. The Founders, for example, imposed such restrictions on those who lived off of the public purse, and the States, per the Constitution, are authorized to determine eligibility to vote, with a few restrictions (Age, Race, Previous Condition of Servitude).

    Mind you, I would agree that that is likely not how a judge would rule; but that would be an indictment of our judiciary, not the law itself.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Children (dependents) don't. Is this an injustice?
    Children can't be any worse voters than adults.
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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    There is no particularly compelling reason to suppose why such laws would be. The Founders, for example, imposed such restrictions on those who lived off of the public purse, and the States, per the Constitution, are authorized to determine eligibility to vote, with a few restrictions (Age, Race, Previous Condition of Servitude).

    Mind you, I would agree that that is likely not how a judge would rule; but that would be an indictment of our judiciary, not the law itself.
    I'd agree with you that there was a time when this would've been constitutional, but in my opinion the 24th amendment would make this type of legislation unconstitutional now at least for federal elections.
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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    So it's my girlfriend's fault no one would hire her full-time for four months after graduating from Louisville because she has a Master's degree and employers considered her over-qualified? That's nonsense. That wasn't her fault (and luckily she was able to get a part time job and live with her parents), but if she had gone on government assistence, she wouldn't have kicked anyone in the teeth, she would have been kicked in the teeth by society. Your position is incredibly insensitive and rather out of touch with reality. You seem to think a sustaining job exists for everyone who wants one. It doesn't.
    Yes it is her fault. Obviously she has over-educated herself for the sort of work she is looking to do. That's actually a growing issue here in the United States, as I see it. People think they're worth more simply because they have a larger sheepskin to hang on the wall and they're finding that in this economy that Master's Degree or PhD may not really have been worth it afterall. Then again I believe a large part of our problem is that we have a much higher percentage of people looking for non-agricultural work nowadays than were 100 years ago. We've increased the number of applicants while in reality decreasing (at least percentagewise) the number of jobs out there.

    Yes, she would have been kicking people in the teeth. I'm sorry, but from what little I've read she hasn't put anything into the system, is perfectly able-bodied, and still would have wanted to take out of the system. Society/Government does not exist to ensure results, only opportunities. If she over-educated herself and happens to be of the wrong gender to be in the workplace to begin with, that's not Society/Government's fault.

    Yes, my position is insensitive, becuase I take emotion out of things like this. I don't think a sustaining job exists or should exist for everyone, whether they want it or not. As I said, we improperly expanded the workforce while corespondingly decreasing jobs, so something like this had to happen eventually, one way or the other.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Yes...DUH.

    I am against the amount of welfare in America...it should be far less, IMO.

    But taking away voting rights for those on it is moronic in the extremis.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    So if we don't talk about hunger, everyone will be well-fed?
    What are you talking about? You brought up race when in this conversation race is not an issue. No one to my knowledge is suggesting that minority welfare recipients not be allowed to vote. The question put forth is that welfare recipients, all of them of every race, be allowed to vote. And there are just as many welfare recipients who are white as there are any other race. This is not a question of race. Take your little racist agenda and race baiting bull**** elsewhere please and address the topic.
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