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Thread: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I've always felt the health of the SOUL was more important than the mind or the body.

    Right now they have no career options outside of the university system, a place I did my best to get out of as quickly as possible.
    to each his own. i wouldn't give up a second of my college / grad education. it has helped in all kinds of ways, both directly and indirectly.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    First off, I gave an AS Degree, not AA. At the time I graduated the only BS Degree available in that field was from a college in California and it only had about a 60% placement rate because the grads were severely over-educated and under - skilled in real job related experience; as I find most Engineers I work with these days to be. Education solely for education's sake is great in a perfect world but in the real world it's a waste. I will never need a BS to do my job so why would I spend thousands of dollars to get one? It's not going to increase my salary in my job and the jobs it could position me for I have no interest in.
    Spoken like a true mediocre middle of the pack rat. I meant a two year degree, sort of an advanced high school diploma. I can understand over education, who needs a wire splicer with a 4 year degree? Lack of desire to do more than the same semi-entry level job for 20 years is not uncommon in the corporate muck. I know a few who have stayed at the same job and company for over a decade. For most programmers a 4 years stint in any one shop is average.

    Course many career fields that are not dead ends do have experienced education creep. When I was a young june bug in the Infantry, PSGs didn't have college, now almost all have a 4 year degree and it does count for promotion.

    You started in '94 as a what?

    My Brother in law started programming in the mid 70's with NO degree- try doing that today. Today anyone with less than a 4 year degree had better know the boss REAL well. He has since gone on to earn a PHD, but he does have ambition and a love of his career field and sucking up knowledge- yeah he is a super nerd.

    Today is different, I'd say most career paths that are not dull dead enders have a place for a Master's Degree. The 'stigma' of being over educated for a professional job requiring at least a 4 year degree is mostly in the minds of the mediocre pack rats. What hurts a Master's Degree beginner is a job market flooded with out of work experienced job seekers, not some made-up excuse of cost to train and then not retain.

    Experience does count, but once you leave the glorified high school level jobs, education is important.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    That is so true, and you may want to include large parts of TN and KY. Don't forget the trailerhoods, people, where most vote Rep, and last, but not least, so many Veterans who have fallen on hard times. If anyone earned the right to vote, it is they.
    Its utterly absurd to deny anyone the right to vote.
    Every single white person I know from KY lives on welfare…

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    To choose their own government can only:

    1. Mentally healthy menfolk, have no criminal records, reached the end of his military service, married to a woman and have at least 2 children. At the age of 27 to 70 years old. Having personal property and regularly paying taxes.

    2. Widows of these men who have joint children, are entitled to a half vote.

    When the government chooses the crowd, this is not democracy, and mob rule.
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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Every single white person I know from KY lives on welfare…
    I do not know of any white man, that can work, but chose a welfare. So you're not telling the truth.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    The only people that should be allowed to vote are those that contribute to the function of the state. Those that take from it or are paid by the state should not be allowed to influence events, for, afterall, they are going to vote for that block that favors their dependence.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    You started in '94 as a what?
    I started as a CAD Drafter for a structural engineer. I spent three years there and then moved on to a three year stint as a CAD Drafter at a commercial architect. I was laid off from that firm in January of 2001. I took a contract position as a CAD Designer at a utility company. In 2006 the company finally hired me directly after giving them something of an ultimatum. In 2007 I was part if a group that organized the Designers and Engineers to join the Union. I was on the negotiations team for our initial contract completed in 2009 and for the new contract last year as well as being the department Steward. I now make more than $35.00 per hour with a pension, good benefits and guaranteed raises/bonuses each year.

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Experience does count, but once you leave the glorified high school level jobs, education is important.
    Once you leave those "glorified high school level" jobs there is a level of politics, drama, and associated crap that nobody in their right mind wants to deal with. You also get into Salaried jobs that offer no compensation for extra work.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by loader View Post
    I do not know of any white man, that can work, but chose a welfare. So you're not telling the truth.
    It's true Loader. How did you reach the conclusion that white people are never lazy?

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I'm sure if she had known in advance jobs would purposefully not hire her because she was educated, she would have rethought it. But it's not her fault society is telling her she needs to be uneducated if she wants a job, that's society's fault for being so threatened by an educated person.

    Which goes back to my original position of society kicking people in the teeth.

    And, once again, your position in this thread makes it clear responding to your position is a waste of time.
    I saw this problem a lot when I got my Masters. So many of the people I studied with couldn't find jobs to save their life. It's a strange paradox. It's said that our workforce lacks educated, skilled laborers, but then you get an education, and there aren't jobs for you.
    Black Lives matter. Until you multiply them by the speed of light squared, then Black Lives energy.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    It's true Loader. How did you reach the conclusion that white people are never lazy?
    I did not write it. That you had invented. I wrote that I do not know.

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