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Thread: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Yes it is her fault. Obviously she has over-educated herself for the sort of work she is looking to do.
    Yeah...this doesn't make any sense at all. At this point, it's pretty clear your position on this really isn't worth my time anymore.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Denying anyone the right to vote goes against everything we stand for. Now, I am all for photo ID for verification purposes, and would hope that voters make an informed decision, but aside from that, no restrictions.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Yeah...this doesn't make any sense at all. At this point, it's pretty clear your position on this really isn't worth my time anymore.
    If she can't find a job because (as you said yourself), she was "overqualified" due to her Master's Degree, then maybe she shouldn't have wasted the time/money on that degree. Then again in my mind a woman wastes time/money getting ANY degree, since her place isn't in the work force that requires a degree to begin with.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    If she can't find a job because (as you said yourself), she was "overqualified" due to her Master's Degree, then maybe she shouldn't have wasted the time/money on that degree.
    I'm sure if she had known in advance jobs would purposefully not hire her because she was educated, she would have rethought it. But it's not her fault society is telling her she needs to be uneducated if she wants a job, that's society's fault for being so threatened by an educated person.

    Which goes back to my original position of society kicking people in the teeth.

    Then again in my mind a woman wastes time/money getting ANY degree, since her place isn't in the work force that requires a degree to begin with.
    And, once again, your position in this thread makes it clear responding to your position is a waste of time.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I'm sure if she had known in advance jobs would purposefully not hire her because she was educated, she would have rethought it. But it's not her fault society is telling her she needs to be uneducated if she wants a job, that's society's fault for being so threatened by an educated person.
    Not educated, OVER-educated. It's not society's fault at all. Nobody is going to pay her a Master's Degree salary to do high school graduate level work. When I chose my career, I knew that the average individual in my field had a high school diploma or a trade school certificate. I took a chance and got my Associates Degree in the field, knowing that it MIGHT make it considerably more difficult to get a job because I would want more money. Thankfully I got lucky.... just as I graduated the standards in the field moved up to a Post-High School Trade School Certification or Associates Degree, which put me right on the front edge of the wave of increasing salaries. Your girlfriend apparently isn't as lucky.

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    Which goes back to my original position of society kicking people in the teeth.
    Not at all. Why should an employer pay her a Master's Degree salary if she isn't doing Master's level work?

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    And, once again, your position in this thread makes it clear responding to your position is a waste of time.
    Responding to me on any topic in any thread is a waste of time, but people still seem to do it.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    It will not go away, but eventually it will be replaced by single-payer insurance which you will probably like even less.

    Wait and see.
    nope, not without an uprising first

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Not educated, OVER-educated. It's not society's fault at all. Nobody is going to pay her a Master's Degree salary to do high school graduate level work.
    She wasn't asking for master's degree salary, she was asking for the same wage they were offering anyone else. That is definitely society's fault.

    Your girlfriend apparently isn't as lucky.
    It's nothing to do with luck and a lot more to do with society. Jobs are scarce, labor is in abundance, she comes from a poor family and has loan payments kicking in soon. She applied for jobs related to her degree and many many more not related to her degree. She was told time and again she was over-qualified, even though wages had nothing to do with it.

    Not at all. Why should an employer pay her a Master's Degree salary if she isn't doing Master's level work?
    Why would an employer not hire her when she was asking for no benefits related to her Master's degree? She wasn't asking for master's degree level salary, she wasn't even asking for salary. She was asking for a job, any job, which could pay bills.

    Responding to me on any topic in any thread is a waste of time, but people still seem to do it.
    This post of yours at least exposed your misunderstanding of the situation and what she was going for. And I can understand where you would think that an employer would not give elevated salary, but she wasn't asking for it. Furthermore, I would argue that's just another limitation of today's society when there aren't jobs for those with degrees in higher levels of education.

    No matter how you want to look at it, most people who are on welfare don't want to be on welfare and a great number of them are there for reasons outside of their control.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    nope, not without an uprising first



    There will be no uprising.

    Wait and see.




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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The founders imposed a lot of restrictions on who could and couldn't vote. Although done piecemeal, we've fortunately moved past that
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    Correct, and it was a long hard fight.

    A lot of good people had to give their lives for us to get to this point and I don't believe that we are ever going back no matter what a few people on the far right think.




    I could be wrong but I don't believe that the U.S. Supreme Court is going to let anyone's vote be taken away because they received a little assistance from the government.

    Let's wait and see what happens or doesn't happen.
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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    She wasn't asking for master's degree salary, she was asking for the same wage they were offering anyone else. That is definitely society's fault.
    Alright, and when the economy starts to turn around and something in her field, at her Master's Degree level (and pay) opens up, is she going to stay there, or is she going to jump ship for the new opportunity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    It's nothing to do with luck and a lot more to do with society. Jobs are scarce, labor is in abundance, she comes from a poor family and has loan payments kicking in soon. She applied for jobs related to her degree and many many more not related to her degree. She was told time and again she was over-qualified, even though wages had nothing to do with it.
    Again, it has to do with employee retention. As soon as things turn around she'll be gone for greener pastures and they'll have to train her replacement. I graduated in 1994, not exactly the best economy in American history and had some trouble finding a temporary job until I located a permanent one for the same reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Why would an employer not hire her when she was asking for no benefits related to her Master's degree? She wasn't asking for master's degree level salary, she wasn't even asking for salary. She was asking for a job, any job, which could pay bills.
    Again, because they don't want to train her replacement 6 months down the road when she finds a job she really wants. Especially when there are people walking through the door who the company knows will be there for a LONG time because they don't have any other options.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    This post of yours at least exposed your misunderstanding of the situation and what she was going for. And I can understand where you would think that an employer would not give elevated salary, but she wasn't asking for it. Furthermore, I would argue that's just another limitation of today's society when there aren't jobs for those with degrees in higher levels of education.
    She was over-educated the moment she walked into a college due to her gender. Then she went and trumped it by wasting her time getting a Master's degree. I say that as someone with a brother and s-i-l who both have PhD's (Pile it Higher and Deeper) in microbiology. They're so over-educated the only thing they're qualified to do is stay in the university system and help spit out more of their own kind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    No matter how you want to look at it, most people who are on welfare don't want to be on welfare and a great number of them are there for reasons outside of their control.
    LOL. Most people on welfare are there because they made ****ty-ass decisions in their youth and now they're paying for it. GOOD. It's what they deserve. I say that as someone whose fiance's family almost totally subsists on welfare.

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