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Thread: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    There is no particularly compelling reason to suppose why such laws would be. The Founders, for example, imposed such restrictions on those who lived off of the public purse, and the States, per the Constitution, are authorized to determine eligibility to vote, with a few restrictions (Age, Race, Previous Condition of Servitude).

    Mind you, I would agree that that is likely not how a judge would rule; but that would be an indictment of our judiciary, not the law itself.
    The founders imposed a lot of restrictions on who could and couldn't vote. Although done piecemeal, we've fortunately moved past that.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    What are you talking about? You brought up race when in this conversation race is not an issue.
    Race has nothing to do with poverty? Really? Man, I wish that were true.
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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Race has nothing to do with poverty? Really? Man, I wish that were true.
    Yea, white people are poor too. Look into it. There are poor people of every race. Do you have anything at all to support this race baiting idea of yours that people want to stop voting for minorities on welfare? Because the guy I heard was talking about people on welfare. All races. Not just some but all.
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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Race has nothing to do with poverty? Really? Man, I wish that were true.
    are you trying to say minorities are too stupid to provide for themselves?

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    are you trying to say minorities are too stupid to provide for themselves?
    Pretty sure he thinks that white people cant be poor.
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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Pretty sure he thinks that white people cant be poor.


    He/she did not want to hear what Bill Cosby had to say about poverty when I posted it earlier this week.

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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Yea, white people are poor too. Look into it. There are poor people of every race. Do you have anything at all to support this race baiting idea of yours that people want to stop voting for minorities on welfare? Because the guy I heard was talking about people on welfare. All races. Not just some but all.
    Wow, you're getting pretty emotional about this. Let's just look at this from a logical point-of-view, okay? From here, we see that in the year 2011:

    -15% of Americans lived in poverty. Broken down by ethnicity, we have:
    -12.2% of Asian Americans;
    -25.3% of Hispanics;
    -26.7% of African Americans;
    live in poverty. So we clearly see that poverty disproportionately affects black and brown Americans.
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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Wow, you're getting pretty emotional about this. Let's just look at this from a logical point-of-view, okay? From here, we see that in the year 2011:

    -15% of Americans lived in poverty. Broken down by ethnicity, we have:
    -12.2% of Asian Americans;
    -25.3% of Hispanics;
    -26.7% of African Americans;
    live in poverty. So we clearly see that poverty disproportionately affects black and brown Americans.
    Are you trolling me? Seriously the breakdown of percentage of poor by race has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. If you want to discuss that start a ****ing thread for that. This is about ALL welfare recipients losing their right to vote. Comprehension is a good skill. Look into that. Focus on the subject of the thread.
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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Are you trolling me? Seriously the breakdown of percentage of poor by race has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. If you want to discuss that start a ****ing thread for that. This is about ALL welfare recipients losing their right to vote. Comprehension is a good skill. Look into that. Focus on the subject of the thread.
    I figured you would do this. Let's recap, shall we?

    Me: "So these right-wing extremists who want to deprive poor people the right to vote, particularly poor people of color, should be first in line to give it up themselves."
    You: "No one on 8 pages of posts brought up race. No one. Until you."
    Me: "So if we don't talk about hunger, everyone will be well-fed?"
    You: "What are you talking about? You brought up race when in this conversation race is not an issue."
    Me: "Race has nothing to do with poverty? Really? Man, I wish that were true."
    You: "Yea, white people are poor too. Look into it. There are poor people of every race. Do you have anything at all to support this race baiting idea of yours that people want to stop voting for minorities on welfare?"

    To which I broke down some verifiable statistics about different races and their respective poverty levels.

    You: "Are you trolling me? Seriously the breakdown of percentage of poor by race has absolutely nothing to do with this thread."

    I have built a case that if welfare recipients were to be denied their constitutionally-mandated right to vote, then it would disproportionately affect people of color. I have used facts and figures to help establish that claim; you have failed in your attempt to knock it down with emotional responses. If you could provide me some nonpartisan statistics that show that racial minorities do not receive significantly more welfare than whites do, I would be more than willing to take a look at them. Until such time, I will assume you are flailing.
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    Re: Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?[W:84]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    I was flipping around the radio yesterday and came across a guy named Michael Savage. He was pretty excited and screaming about "Why should those on welfare be allowed to vote". His point is simply that they are not paying taxes or making this country better so why should they have a say. Use the right to vote to encourage those lazy leeches to get off of their asses and get a job.

    I had heard of this guy but I don't think I've ever listened to him before. I have heard Rush and Hannity before but this guy seemed extreme even in comparison to those guys. Who in their right mind would really suggest that the poor should not be allowed to vote. Taking power away from people and handing it solely to the upper classes. And he was talking about this should be one of the platforms of the Republican party.

    What do you think?
    What I think? I think this guy Savage is an idiot. Everybody pays taxes in the USA and even if they did not pay taxes they should still be allowed to vote.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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