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Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

Do you agree with ban on smoking inside cars with children?

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mak2 said:
Are there really people who would defend their right to smoke in a small closed environment with children? I cant beleive someone would really want to do it to start with, but defend it?
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Like I said before this law this law doesn't accomplish anything. Furthermore people should be fighting for their rights. The government should not have the power to decide what you can and cannot do on or in your own property. This mindset that so many people seem to have that the government should be controlling every aspect of our lives is pathetic.
 
Henrin said:
If I recall it's because the smoke will travel throughout the house and the kid has no choice but to be in the home. That is essentially the same argument being made here. The smoke is traveling around the car and the kid has no choice but to be in the car. There is no doubt it is the same argument.
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No doubt. Also now that the cat is out of the bag, the government will be soon be determining many other things that can't be done inside ones private home.

I'm sure butter, and other cooking ingredients are on the short list of future illegal substances that can be used in one's home.

I wonder what type of air fresheners will be allowed?
 
d0gbreath said:
Minivans and SUVs aren't exactly confined spaces. Put the kids in the back of the Excursion and smoke way up there in the front.
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That works. You could also exhale away from the kids while smoking in the car.
 
lizzie said:
All you have to do is crack the window nearest whoever is smoking. The draft pulls the smoke.
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A tiny, utterly ineffective minuscule amount. Look, we're all adults here. We've all been in the car of a smoker who cracked the window and it doesn't work.
 
Cardinal said:
A tiny, utterly ineffective minuscule amount. Look, we're all adults here. We've all been in the car of a smoker who cracked the window and it doesn't work.
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Then you must be riding with some pretty inconsiderate folks.
 
lizzie said:
Then you must be riding with some pretty inconsiderate folks.
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Maybe the venturi effect doesn't work where I am. Gravity and time are different here too.
 
Dragonfly said:
Off topic. :roll:
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Not off topic, actually. This is integral to the point. Smoking and drinking while pregnant can lead to far greater damage than afterwards.
 
lizzie said:
Then you must be riding with some pretty inconsiderate folks.
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I'm a smoker and even I can smell (weeks later) when someone has been smoking in a car.
 
Kreton said:
I don't see the point. It accomplishes nothing other than to make those who passed it feel good. These parents are still going to be smoking around their kids and the kids are going to continue to breathe it in. You cannot legislate stupidity out of our country. It is insane how more and more everyday the government takes more and more control from us. And it is sad how accepting people are to it.
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Some people will obey the law just because its the law. Some will I supposed be ticketed if seen smoking with kids in the car. Beyond that, it adds to the conversation that exposing others to second hand smoke is selfish and unhealthy and is yet one more step in a positive direction.
 
lizzie said:
No reason to be an ass about it. I was just offering my own observations on the matter.
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Well, we were talking about cracking the window as a viable solution. Whether or not someone was inconsiderate had no bearing.
 
Caine said:
.would someone... Please... Think of the children!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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7. Argumentum Ad Misericordium (Or “Do it for the Children”)

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Cardinal said:
Maybe the venturi effect doesn't work where I am. Gravity and time are different here too.
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Maybe kids who are forced to ride in cars with smokers can be made into venturi meters...then sell the data collected? That might pay for the negative health effects they might experience later in life.
 
Removable Mind said:
Maybe kids who are forced to ride in cars with smokers can be made into venturi meters...then sell the data collected? That might pay for the negative health effects they might experience later in life.
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It would be fun proving the connection. :lol:
 
Clearly it should be illegal to smoke while pregnant, right.
 
scatt said:
Except you don't know there will be less, you hope there will be.
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No, I know there would be less because it is illogical to believe more people would start smoking in their cars with children in them with such laws in place, and there are always going to be some people like my father who would not do that particular action (with a lot of grumbling about not being able to) for fear of breaking the law/being fined. As long as there is just one person who would avoid smoking in their car with kids inside to avoid the fine, then that proves that it would reduce the number. Given that we know that many people will obey laws just to avoid fines, particularly laws like this, then it is not going to be just one person, but quite a number. More will be "influenced" to stop the behavior when they end up pulled over or warned or even fined for actually smoking in their cars with children inside.
 
Henrin said:
It would be fun proving the connection. :lol:
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Oh, I think that kids who breath in quantities of tobacco tar and compounds will register sufficient levels in order to show a connection.
 
roguenuke said:
No, I know there would be less because it is illogical to believe more people would start smoking in their cars with children in them with such laws in place, and there are always going to be some people like my father who would not do that particular action (with a lot of grumbling about not being able to) for fear of breaking the law/being fined. As long as there is just one person who would avoid smoking in their car with kids inside to avoid the fine, then that proves that it would reduce the number. Given that we know that many people will obey laws just to avoid fines, particularly laws like this, then it is not going to be just one person, but quite a number. More will be "influenced" to stop the behavior when they end up pulled over or warned or even fined for actually smoking in their cars with children inside.
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Are there any group of people that ever purposely break a law once they know it is a law, because it is a law?
 
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