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I don't know if smoking in the car with the windows rolled up is as bad for a baby as breathing the air in a polluted city, and common sense would tend to tell me that it isn't as bad, when you can see that the baby is inhaling pretty much all smoke while inside the fish bowled car. That's disgusting!
Keep the window cracked. Good enough.
I hope you're right, but statistics I'd seen recently showed use is rising among young people - I hope that's wrong.
The cigarette smell could be from several sources. Could be from smoking while kids are not in the car, could be from ashtray, could be from smoking passengers when kids are not there, could be from the residue on your clothes which transfer to the seats and many many other reasons. I've yet to see smoke in the back of a car when my kids are there. If any does get back there it is so little as to be irrelevent. They'll get worse toxins from the car itself and the cars that are also driving on the road. Indeed you have more chance of getting into an accident than giving a child lung cancer with a window open. If you want to wonder about putting your child at risk then think on that. Unless you live in a bubble house your kids are put at risk all the time. Much of it needless.
I agree that it's deplorable to smoke around children, but do we really need Big Gubbermint stepping in to keep children safe and healthy on THIS level? Isn't that what parents are for? Personally, I don't want to live in a country where bureaucrats wipe people's noses and change their diapers. People can't be protected from themselves, and unfortunately no matter how unfair it is, children are subjected to social darwinism. If they are born with morons as parents, their lives will probably suck. But at what point does society continue to intervene? And where does it end?
Yes we do need government to step in because there are obviously still people who smoke in their cars with their children in them. If it wasn't a problem, then there would be no reason for even thinking about such a law in the first place.
You are aware that a law banning something does not actually stop it from happening, right?
It does greatly reduce it though.
I don't see the point. It accomplishes nothing other than to make those who passed it feel good. These parents are still going to be smoking around their kids and the kids are going to continue to breathe it in. You cannot legislate stupidity out of our country. It is insane how more and more everyday the government takes more and more control from us. And it is sad how accepting people are to it.
Does it really?
Yes. Just as car seat laws greatly reduced the amount of children/babies riding unrestrained in the car. I know for a fact that those like my father would not smoke in his car and drive if he was worried about breaking a law and possibly being fined for it. He might be upset about it, but he would still obey the law. And this is how a lot of people are.
Well it is highest amongst 20-24 year olds so I assume that means those younger smoke less and more adults are quitting. I know that among my age group which is the younger one, smoking now carries a very negative around it and you will find any university level kid smoking only college kids. It seems the lower their intelligence the more likely they are to smoke.
How do you know it does?
You are in denial. I remember quite clearly being in the back of the car with my father smoking while driving and having that smoke come back toward me, not to mention the ashes. It absolutely is a problem. And as a child, you do not really have a say in making it stop because most of the time you have to be in the car with your parent and your parent(s) are likely not to care about your protests. My mother even defended my father's smoking in the car around us.
I decided to respond to your post because a number of people have said children don't have a way of making it stop and I think that's mainly true but I wanted to relay what happened to my sister-in-law and her two sons a few decades back. Both the boys, twins, from a young age (5-6) would kick up a fuss and tell my sister-in-law to stop smoking, to quit, it's dirty, it's bad for her, etc. They were relentless and my brother, who doesn't smoke, didn't intervene because he'd tried to get her to stop for a long time without success. Well, as it turns out, one day she just said to hell with it and quit cold turkey and never smoked again - the boys were delighted, my brother was delighted, her family was delighted, and she ended up being better off for it. She was a bean-pole while she smoked and gained a good bit of weight after quitting, but her breathing greatly improved and she wasn't popping Hall's every two seconds and coughing, and generally her health vastly improved. She's quite thankful her two boys were such little bastards and never let up on her.
That's good, but everyone isn't the same and there are not only some parents who would simply ignore the complaining (I would hassle my father a lot although I also got flack from my mother for it) and he still smokes with major health issues and even a pace maker (he better hope he doesn't need a heart transplant), but there are other parents who will punish a child for such comments on their smoking. And there are other children who will be too afraid of losing their parents' love (unfounded or not) to speak up at all.
I agree - it's not the norm by a longshot - I just thought it would be nice to point out that sometimes parents actually do listen to their children and children can have a life-altering affect on their parents.
Enough with the fish bowled car already.
Smokers are going to crack their windows as soon as their eyes start to burn. I used to smoke (it's been 8 years). I would always have my window down an inch, no matter what the temperature was outside.
If the vehicle is moving, the venturi effect draws the smoke right out of the window.
If the vehicle is moving, the venturi effect draws the smoke right out of the window.