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Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

Do you agree with ban on smoking inside cars with children?

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I don't have any problem with the ban. Second hand smoke in an inclosed space like that is very unhealthy. You may as well be letting your kids smoke with you. This has nothing to do with personal freedoms or parental rights either. You do not own your kids. You are responsible for their health and welfare. However your kids are not just some property you own.
 
clownboy said:
Eating while driving while not typically specifically outlawed, MAY be an offence.
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But so many reasonable people eat quarter pounders with cheese. While driving.
 
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RogueWarrior said:
yup no radios, gps. entertainment system, touch screen climate control

all of which easily distract
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My Prius requires I be stopped in park or she won't respond!
 
I agree that it's deplorable to smoke around children, but do we really need Big Gubbermint stepping in to keep children safe and healthy on THIS level? Isn't that what parents are for? Personally, I don't want to live in a country where bureaucrats wipe people's noses and change their diapers. People can't be protected from themselves, and unfortunately no matter how unfair it is, children are subjected to social darwinism. If they are born with morons as parents, their lives will probably suck. But at what point does society continue to intervene? And where does it end?
 
Alyssa said:
I agree that it's deplorable to smoke around children, but do we really need Big Gubbermint stepping in to keep children safe and healthy on THIS level? Isn't that what parents are for? Personally, I don't want to live in a country where bureaucrats wipe people's noses and change their diapers. People can't be protected from themselves, and unfortunately no matter how unfair it is, children are subjected to social darwinism. If they are born with morons as parents, their lives will probably suck. But at what point does society continue to intervene? And where does it end?
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Interesting idea.
 
they can do this, but can't get DYFSS to get off their asses and remove children from dangerous home environments.
 
Montecresto said:
Letting fat kids eat pop tarts and drink pop all day. We need to stop that child abuse too! But that's another thread, I know. :). Oh, I just remembered, Michelle is working on that already.
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Whatever. You can make comparisons all day long, and it does not change the fact that smoking with your children in the car is beyond stupid and just shows that your addiction is out of control.
 
ChrisL said:
Whatever. You can make comparisons all day long, and it does not change the fact that smoking with your children in the car is beyond stupid and just shows that your addiction is out of control.
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So a police officer needs to step in and do what exactly? i mean society fines people who litter?
 
Alyssa said:
So a police officer needs to step in and do what exactly? i mean society fines people who litter?
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I said there shouldn't be bans but it's sad that people cannot exercise some common sense. Funny how many people are responding in a negative way to that statement. It's the truth.
 
Cardinal said:
Fair enough. Seriously, if you're a parent smoking in the same enclosed space as your child, what the hell is wrong with you?
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I agree, it's really stupid, but how would you enforce such laws? It's kind of wasteful because there is really no way to enforce it.
 
ChrisL said:
Whatever. You can make comparisons all day long, and it does not change the fact that smoking with your children in the car is beyond stupid and just shows that your addiction is out of control.
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But I already said I agree with your position in this thread, earlier. I was just adding the coke, pop-tarts and over weight youth, because that's abusive too! But then acknowledged that that would be for another thread, and added to that, that Michelle was already on it. :)
 
Montecresto said:
But I already said I agree with your position in this thread, earlier. I was just adding the coke, pop-tarts and over weight youth, because that's abusive too! But then acknowledged that that would be for another thread, and added to that, that Michelle was already on it. :)
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Look, you aren't fooling anyone.
 
ChrisL said:
Whatever. You can make comparisons all day long, and it does not change the fact that smoking with your children in the car is beyond stupid and just shows that your addiction is out of control.
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Alyssa said:
I agree that it's deplorable to smoke around children, but do we really need Big Gubbermint stepping in to keep children safe and healthy on THIS level? Isn't that what parents are for? Personally, I don't want to live in a country where bureaucrats wipe people's noses and change their diapers. People can't be protected from themselves, and unfortunately no matter how unfair it is, children are subjected to social darwinism. If they are born with morons as parents, their lives will probably suck. But at what point does society continue to intervene? And where does it end?
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^ i don't disagree.

It's sad that people believe it should be considered child abuse.. and then what? have CPS put the kids in fostercare. I don't smoke, but i think that's an outrage. It's as if people want the government to enforce their opinions.
 
Alyssa said:
^ i don't disagree.

It's sad that people believe it should be considered child abuse.. and then what? have CPS put the kids in fostercare. I don't smoke, but i think that's an outrage. It's as if people want the government to enforce their opinions.
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No I certainly don't think people should lose their children over such a thing. I'm just saying that if more people thought about things, we wouldn't be having this discussion. That's it. I'm not for bans at all, but that doesn't mean that I'm not sickened by the way some people behave.
 
ChrisL said:
I agree, it's really stupid, but how would you enforce such laws? It's kind of wasteful because there is really no way to enforce it.
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It's like any form of child abuse: it's not like child protection services can't monitor every child all the time, but when abuse becomes apparent you do what you can.
 
ChrisL said:
I agree, it's really stupid, but how would you enforce such laws? It's kind of wasteful because there is really no way to enforce it.
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The same way you enforce distracted driving laws.
 
ChrisL said:
Look, you aren't fooling anyone.
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But I wasn't trying to fool you. I agree with your position in this thread, and! I also think that parents who feed their children a crapy diet and allow them to become obese as youths are rather abusing children also. You think I'm being disingenuous here?
 
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