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Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

Do you agree with ban on smoking inside cars with children?

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Dragonfly

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Maryland became the latest state to ban smoking while driving with a child underneath the age of 8 years old in the car, in an effort to keep kids from breathing and being harmed by secondhand smoke. Senate members voted 27-17 in favor of the bill, which would levy a $50 fine on drivers or passengers who violate the proposed new regulation. It will not carry a moving violation which adds points to one’s license, but violating the ban will be a primary offense, meaning the police will be able to pull over suspected violators without observing any other illegal movements in the vehicle.
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Smoking while driving with kids under 8 now illegal in Maryland - NY Daily News


I'm here to say - I can't find fault with this at all, except for wondering why 8 years old is the cut off. Why not 12 or 14? Why 8?

Who here will defend the right of the adult to subject their child to smoke inside a confined space like a car?
 
Here it is under the age of 16 in most provinces but Nova Scotia where it is 19 (the age required to buy cigarettes).
 
Keep the window cracked. Good enough.
 
Dragonfly said:
Smoking while driving with kids under 8 now illegal in Maryland - NY Daily News


I'm here to say - I can't find fault with this at all, except for wondering why 8 years old is the cut off. Why not 12 or 14? Why 8?

Who here will defend the right of the adult to subject their child to smoke inside a confined space like a car?
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I'm not saying you should be able to smoke anywhere and everywhere, but a car is private property. That's only a step away from saying you can't smoke in your house.
 
I sat at a stop light a couple of days ago, looked over and both adults in the front seat of the car next to me were smoking. There were 2 babies in car seats in back. I thought right then there ought to be a law...
 
joko104 said:
Keep the window cracked. Good enough.
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My thinking exactly.

Just how much government intervention and interdiction in our lives are we suppose to tolerate? Gotta draw a line someplace that the government can't cross.

Meanwhile, in California, I think it's illegal to smoke in your own backyard. So much for your house being your castle.
 
Should be 16, or at least 14. Smoking around those who can't speak for themselves is horrible.
 
This is a tough one. While I hate government intervention, smoking in a small confined space such as a vehicle is SO bad for the kids!
 
rocket88 said:
I'm not saying you should be able to smoke anywhere and everywhere, but a car is private property. That's only a step away from saying you can't smoke in your house.
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Oh, and that's happened already, too!
 
joko104 said:
Keep the window cracked. Good enough.
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Take some Windex cleaner and a white paper towel and go clean the inside windows in a smoker car.

Tar and nicotine go everywhere regardless of a "cracked" window.

It's grossly disgusting.

Subjecting small children to a very confined space, and a cancerous airborne substance is borderline abusive.

This isn't about YOUR right to smoke, it'a about small childrens rights to not be subjected to YOUR smoke.

Would you hand your small child a cigarette and allow them to smoke it?
 
Dragonfly said:
Take some Windex cleaner and a white paper towel and go clean the inside windows in a smoker car.

Tar and nicotine go everywhere regardless of a "cracked" window.

It's grossly disgusting.

Subjecting small children to a very confined space, and a cancerous airborne substance is borderline abusive.

This isn't about YOUR right to smoke, it'a about small childrens rights to not be subjected to YOUR smoke.

Would you hand your small child a cigarette and allow them to smoke it?
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Sure, why not.

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Not just cancer, studies indicate secondhand smoke causes respiratory problems for the rest of their lives.
Dragonfly said:
Take some Windex cleaner and a white paper towel and go clean the inside windows in a smoker car.

Tar and nicotine go everywhere regardless of a "cracked" window.

It's grossly disgusting.

Subjecting small children to a very confined space, and a cancerous airborne substance is borderline abusive.

This isn't about YOUR right to smoke, it'a about small childrens rights to not be subjected to YOUR smoke.

Would you hand your small child a cigarette and allow them to smoke it?
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I responded other for a simple reason - I fully agree that people who insist on smoking shouldn't do so in the presence of children, particularly when those children have no way to escape second hand smoke. I object, however, to the government micromanaging citizen use of a legal product. People, unfortunately, aren't always smart enough to do what's right. However, tobacco products have been proven, beyond a doubt, to be a significant cause of many cancers and the cause of untold deaths. I find it incredible that government continues to legalize a known killer solely because it produces significant tax revenue. They quickly take other known carcinogens out of circulation - but those don't bring $billions into government coffers.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I responded other for a simple reason - I fully agree that people who insist on smoking shouldn't do so in the presence of children, particularly when those children have no way to escape second hand smoke. I object, however, to the government micromanaging citizen use of a legal product. People, unfortunately, aren't always smart enough to do what's right. However, tobacco products have been proven, beyond a doubt, to be a significant cause of many cancers and the cause of untold deaths. I find it incredible that government continues to legalize a known killer solely because it produces significant tax revenue. They quickly take other known carcinogens out of circulation - but those don't bring $billions into government coffers.
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So what is the answer? Ban nicotine products?
 
CanadaJohn said:
I responded other for a simple reason - I fully agree that people who insist on smoking shouldn't do so in the presence of children, particularly when those children have no way to escape second hand smoke. I object, however, to the government micromanaging citizen use of a legal product. People, unfortunately, aren't always smart enough to do what's right. However, tobacco products have been proven, beyond a doubt, to be a significant cause of many cancers and the cause of untold deaths. I find it incredible that government continues to legalize a known killer solely because it produces significant tax revenue. They quickly take other known carcinogens out of circulation - but those don't bring $billions into government coffers.
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I look at it this way - if you want to kill yourself, who am I to stop you.
If you want to take your children with you, then we have a problem.

Seems logical and reasonable to protect kids from the blatant and astronomical ignorance of their parents - when possible.
 
I don't think they need a new law, that one seems relevant and required given the amount of information available about smoking however, is sad. That said, why can't existing child endangerment laws be applied here? My view is the law seems un-necessary. Broaden child endangerment laws and apply it as needed.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Yes, I would.
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Oh this is inevitable, for years I've said that the day comes in America when smoking cigarettes is illegal and smoking marijauna is legal.
 
I see nothing wrong with the law. The child has no way of defending itself especially in the back seat of the car. The parent is endangering the child by smoking in the car.
 
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