View Poll Results: Do you agree with ban on smoking inside cars with children?

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    the govt shouldn't be in the business of policing stupidity
    AGAIN, I never said they should. I said it's too bad people are so dumb that we would even have to discuss such a law.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Ever see that sticky orange stuff running down the walls in the house of a smoker when there's some humidity? Ever move a picture and look at the orange stained walls? I would think that also gets into your body. Do you think that's healthy for a baby's tiny little lungs?
    Of course not. But I also think the baby would protest very loudly if the smoke was enough to be significant.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what's odd is that "back in the day" almost everyone smoked and yet the number of people dying from cancer was actually lower per capita

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    There are other things besides lung cancer. Both of my parents died of emphysema. Dad quit smoking at 50, lived to be 79. Mom never quit, lived to be 81. Something will get you eventually... but I think both could have lived another 5-10 yrs and enjoyed a better quality of life if they'd never smoked.

    And yeah, I'm 48 now and I still struggle with it. I'm trying the e-cig thing in my latest efforts to quit the real deal. I wish I'd never lit the first one too.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Of course not. But I also think the baby would protest very loudly if the smoke was enough to be significant.
    I don't think that is always the case. Just because the baby isn't crying doesn't mean that the smoke isn't causing damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't know about actual lung cancer, but I do know that there is a correlation between cigarettes and other types of lung disease, such as emphysema, chronic bronchitis, chronic pneumonia, and other respiratory illness. They have never been able to make the case that cigarettes actually cause lung cancer, but I'm sure it doesn't help either.
    true and I'm not saying smoking is a good idea, I just think that if we start making some stupid crap illegal then it won't be long before they start wanting to make any and everything that "might" be bad for you illegal. (FWIW, in several places they have already tried)
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    There are other things besides lung cancer. Both of my parents died of emphysema. Dad quit smoking at 50, lived to be 79. Mom never quit, lived to be 81. Something will get you eventually... but I think both could have lived another 5-10 yrs and enjoyed a better quality of life if they'd never smoked.

    And yeah, I'm 48 now and I still struggle with it. I'm trying the e-cig thing in my latest efforts to quit the real deal. I wish I'd never lit the first one too.
    yep... my grandfather smoked at least two packs a day for as long as I can remember and cigars to boot. according to his story he started smoking at age 14 and never quit. never had any health issues, healthy as a horse, tripped and fell down a flight of stairs at age 93 and broke his neck.

    something will always get you.

    I think genetics plays a big part in it. most of my family (aunts, uncles, cousins) smokes, none of them have ever had any issues. I have been smoking for 35 years and I have no smoking related health issues. Hell, I once quit for 8 years and I had more health issues in those 8 years than I've had the rest of my life combined.

    and then again I've seen smokers with all kinds of medical issues from it.

    and then I've seen people who never smoked that have the same kinds of issues that many smokers have. My mother-in-law never smoked, was never around people who smoked and she died of lung cancer when she was 59
    maybe it's luck, maybe it's genetics. but I do know it is not as simple as "smoking causes xyz"
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    true and I'm not saying smoking is a good idea, I just think that if we start making some stupid crap illegal then it won't be long before they start wanting to make any and everything that "might" be bad for you illegal. (FWIW, in several places they have already tried)
    Well I don't want to make smoking illegal. I just wish people would practice common sense when it comes to their kids. I think some smokers are just so into their addiction that they justify it to themselves because they just want to have a cigarette, that's how strong the addiction is. After a while, you don't control the cigarettes, they control you.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I guess we just have to accept the fact that some people are idiots and they are going to have children.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Do you agree with ban on smoking inside cars with children?
    Not just no, HELL NO!

    There is no proof whatsoever that someone smoking a cigarette in a car necessarily harms children or has ever harmed a child.

    Next thing you know pigs would be using the law to violate people's civil rights and steal their hard earned money. Just like they do with other banned substances.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    As long as it is legal then they need to keep their noses out of our affairs. Until they ban smoking out right then they should have no say what so ever. Tired of this nanny state crap.
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