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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That is still NOT abuse. Abuse is striking or otherwise hurting your child. At best, that would be child neglect, and we already have limited resources to investigate the horrible physical abuse that happens NOW. That would be a minimal form of neglect, considering some parents neglect to feed their children, neglect to be there to supervise their children and other much more horrible and blatant forms happen every day. Do you think we should waste time, money and man power investigating parents who smoke or eat wrong in front of their kids? That is ignorant. There are children who NEED help NOW out there.


    I disagree. Abuse is anything that harms the child. Injecting it with harmful bacteria is abuse. There are those (mostly) women that make their kids sick on purpose so that they (the mothers) get attention. That is child abuse. Putting stereo headphones on your child every day and 'cranking cool tunes' is abuse. Telling your child all the time that they are worthless and you never wanted them is abuse. Tormenting a child mentally is abuse.

    Of course, we dont know about most things like this (and most are not carried to extremes)...and we cannot always stop them...but it doesnt mean the abuses dont take place.
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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    I still cant believe anyone would argue smoking in the car with kids is perfectly fine... everytime I think I have seen and heard it all...Maybe it is a Munchhausen by proxy thing...goodness I dont know.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I disagree. Abuse is anything that harms the child. Injecting it with harmful bacteria is abuse. There are those (mostly) women that make their kids sick on purpose so that they (the mothers) get attention. That is child abuse. Putting stereo headphones on your child every day and 'cranking cool tunes' is abuse. Telling your child all the time that they are worthless and you never wanted them is abuse. Tormenting a child mentally is abuse.

    Of course, we dont know about most things like this (and most are not carried to extremes)...and we cannot always stop them...but it doesnt mean the abuses dont take place.
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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I still cant believe anyone would argue smoking in the car with kids is perfectly fine... everytime I think I have seen and heard it all...Maybe it is a Munchhausen by proxy thing...goodness I dont know.
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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    Why the eye roll?

    Would you, today (Jan 19th, 2014), strap a 3 month old child into a car seat, get into the car, and light up a smoke or two while driving around doing errands?

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Why the eye roll?

    Would you, today (Jan 19th, 2014), strap a 3 month old child into a car seat, get into the car, and light up a smoke or two while driving around doing errands?
    No, I wouldn't. But I'm also not a smarmy keyboard warrior making faulty medical diagnosis i just pulled out of my ass and rearranged from another post. I've already stated my position on this ad nauseum. Now my plan is to sit back and laugh at the ridiculous hyperbole.
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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    No, I wouldn't. .
    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I still cant believe anyone would argue smoking in the car with kids is perfectly fine...
    So you agree with mak2?

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    I don't believe that it's child abuse. It is, however, selfish and inconsiderate.
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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    So what exactly do you call intentionally causing harm to children? Inconsiderate? Really?
    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    I don't believe that it's child abuse. It is, however, selfish and inconsiderate.
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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    I don't believe that it's child abuse. It is, however, selfish and inconsiderate.
    Talking in a theater when other people are trying to enjoy the movie is selfish and inconsiderate. Deliberately exposing someone to deadly carcinogens is abuse.

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    It is absurd this is even a point of contention.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Talking in a theater when other people are trying to enjoy the movie is selfish and inconsiderate. Deliberately exposing someone to deadly carcinogens is abuse.
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