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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    When I was growing up, everyone smoked. The deacons at church went outside to smoke between Sunday School and the worship service. Doctors smoked... IN the examination room with their patients. Including my childhood doctor. Teachers smoked. There was a student smoking area at my Jr High and High schools.


    Everybody frigging smoked, all the time. I guess it is no wonder I started at age 13... I've often said it was "in self-defense".


    I remember riding in a Buick with my parents, two sisters and their husbands... all of them smoking. I was probably 6 or 7. It was cold, but I complained so much about the cloud of smoke in the car that they cracked the window a little for me, and I literally stuck my nose out of it trying to get a breath of fresh air. I didn't care that my nose was turning blue from the cold. It was suffocating in that car full of smoke.

    I remember resenting that the adults would not listen to me, that they were choking me to death.


    Well, that was then. We (collective we) knew smoking wasn't good for you, but we didn't know HOW bad it was, and there wasn't the societal anathema on it that exists today.


    I'm kind of torn on the issue. On the one hand I don't like gov't intrusion into private property or child rearing in any but very serious matters. OTOH I remember being a little kid thinking I was going to choke riding in a closed car full of smoking adults.


    Here's the thing: if it is one person smoking, with the window rolled down... that's one thing. Really, no big deal except for the anti-smoking fanatics.

    Multiple smokers with the windows rolled up.... that's a miserable thing to inflict on anybody, especially kids who lack the ability to MAKE someone roll down the damn window.


    So I dunno... exercising a little common sense courtesy would go a long way...
    Yep, I didn't even like that scenario as a smoker!

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    I like this ban but, people ought to have sense enough to do it on their own.

    NOW HOW ABOUT FRIGGING TEXTING?????

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    A person cannot do anything about that. That is why this is a stupid comparison. They CAN not smoke in the car when their children are present, unless they just don't care and smoking is MORE important than their child's/children's health. My point being that it's too bad we have to even discuss having such dumb laws because people are such morons.
    I don't disagree, I was just being cheeky, sorry.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Do you have proof that second hand smoke kills children?
    Ever see that sticky orange stuff running down the walls in the house of a smoker when there's some humidity? Ever move a picture and look at the orange stained walls? I would think that also gets into your body. Do you think that's healthy for a baby's tiny little lungs?

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I don't disagree, I was just being cheeky, sorry.
    Oh sorry, I misunderstood.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    When I was growing up, everyone smoked. The deacons at church went outside to smoke between Sunday School and the worship service. Doctors smoked... IN the examination room with their patients. Including my childhood doctor. Teachers smoked. There was a student smoking area at my Jr High and High schools.


    Everybody frigging smoked, all the time. I guess it is no wonder I started at age 13... I've often said it was "in self-defense".


    I remember riding in a Buick with my parents, two sisters and their husbands... all of them smoking. I was probably 6 or 7. It was cold, but I complained so much about the cloud of smoke in the car that they cracked the window a little for me, and I literally stuck my nose out of it trying to get a breath of fresh air. I didn't care that my nose was turning blue from the cold. It was suffocating in that car full of smoke.

    I remember resenting that the adults would not listen to me, that they were choking me to death.


    Well, that was then. We (collective we) knew smoking wasn't good for you, but we didn't know HOW bad it was, and there wasn't the societal anathema on it that exists today.


    I'm kind of torn on the issue. On the one hand I don't like gov't intrusion into private property or child rearing in any but very serious matters. OTOH I remember being a little kid thinking I was going to choke riding in a closed car full of smoking adults.


    Here's the thing: if it is one person smoking, with the window rolled down... that's one thing. Really, no big deal except for the anti-smoking fanatics.

    Multiple smokers with the windows rolled up.... that's a miserable thing to inflict on anybody, especially kids who lack the ability to MAKE someone roll down the damn window.


    So I dunno... exercising a little common sense courtesy would go a long way...
    what's odd is that "back in the day" almost everyone smoked and yet the number of people dying from cancer was actually lower per capita

    Smoking Down, Lung Cancer Up | Frank Davis

    In the United States, cigarette sales topped in 1981, with 636 billion cigarettes. While cigarette consumption has almost dropped to half of this figure, the same cannot be said of lung cancer. Lung cancer does not seem to mind whether people smoke or not.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I like this ban but, people ought to have sense enough to do it on their own.

    NOW HOW ABOUT FRIGGING TEXTING?????
    Starting to see more and more anti-texting billboards in the area. They tend to be very witty. An ambulance, lights on, blazing down the road and the caption says, "don't want these guys responding to your text".

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    A person cannot do anything about that. That is why this is a stupid comparison. They CAN not smoke in the car when their children are present, unless they just don't care and smoking is MORE important than their child's/children's health. My point being that it's too bad we have to even discuss having such dumb laws because people are such morons.
    the govt shouldn't be in the business of policing stupidity
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    what's odd is that "back in the day" almost everyone smoked and yet the number of people dying from cancer was actually lower per capita

    Smoking Down, Lung Cancer Up | Frank Davis
    I don't know about actual lung cancer, but I do know that there is a correlation between cigarettes and other types of lung disease, such as emphysema, chronic bronchitis, chronic pneumonia, and other respiratory illness. They have never been able to make the case that cigarettes actually cause lung cancer, but I'm sure it doesn't help either.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I like this ban but, people ought to have sense enough to do it on their own.

    NOW HOW ABOUT FRIGGING TEXTING?????
    In an odd way, banning texting in cars sometimes give incentive for even more dangerous in-car texting. Young people apparently haven't heard of having their smartphones dial friends and family.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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