View Poll Results: Do you agree with ban on smoking inside cars with children?

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  • Yes - I like this ban

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  • Yes - I like it, but age should be older than 8

    21 22.58%
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  • other - please explain

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by alsos View Post
    Is there such thing as a necessary danger?
    The short answer is yes. I drive because I do need to function in society. I need to get to work, to get necessities, so much like when farmers and other professions of old took risks to survive, we do so today. Smoking doesn't fit into that category.

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    You can try to deny the harmful effects of second hand smoke all day long, but to no avail. MD passed this dopey law and may even choose to enforce it a bit - the nanny state is here to stay and will continue to increase its power at every opportunity.
    I don’t deny the effects of smoking any more than I deny the dangers of driving. It’s hit or miss with these things. My dad died of heart disease and had emphysema from decades of smoking. I’m approaching this more from an individual liberty standpoint than the dangers of this or that. I do not encourage smoking around your kids. I don’t even encourage smoking. I hate it with every cell in my body. I know it’s unhealthy and stupid. I don’t need the government to tell me these things.

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by alsos View Post
    I don’t deny the effects of smoking any more than I deny the dangers of driving. It’s hit or miss with these things. My dad died of heart disease and had emphysema from decades of smoking. I’m approaching this more from an individual liberty standpoint than the dangers of this or that. I do not encourage smoking around your kids. I don’t even encourage smoking. I hate it with every cell in my body. I know it’s unhealthy and stupid. I don’t need the government to tell me these things.
    Your liberty is not being reduced by this law. Your right to freely swing your arm ends where my nose begins. Your right to spew tobacco smoke inside your car ends when a child under 8 years of age enters that car.
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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Your liberty is not being reduced by this law. Your right to freely swing your arm ends where my nose begins. Your right to spew tobacco smoke inside your car ends when a child under 8 years of age enters that car.
    But not 9.

    Haha.

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    But not 9.

    Haha.
    True. You can blow smoke on them freely after age 8.
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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    True. You can blow smoke on them freely after age 8.
    Would love to see the police stop.

    Sir, are you aware it is illegal to smoke in a car with an eight year old.

    Don't worry officer, the kid is nine.

    Sorry to have stopped you, have a good day then.

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    True. You can blow smoke on them freely after age 8.
    From the article.

    The United State Environmental Protection agency says, “Children are particularly vulnerable to the effects of secondhand smoke because they are still developing physically, have higher breathing rates than adults, and have little control over their indoor environments. Children exposed to high doses of secondhand smoke, such as those whose mothers smoke, run the greatest relative risk of experiencing damaging health effects.”
    (bold mine)

    I couldn't tell you what scientific studies are backing that up, though.

    Having little control over their indoor environments is reasonable enough, though I still don't know why eight was the cutoff age.

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Having little control over their indoor environments is reasonable enough, though I still don't know why eight was the cutoff age.
    Easier to pass.

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Would love to see the police stop.

    Sir, are you aware it is illegal to smoke in a car with an eight year old.

    Don't worry officer, the kid is nine.

    Sorry to have stopped you, have a good day then.
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