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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Cigarettes have hundreds of different chemicals, some of which are carcinogenic. Pollution from a surrounding industrial area could contain hundreds of thousands of chemicals of all different types. What that pollution settles on an area and the weather systems cannot move that pollution out, that baby is breathing in those thousands of chemicals every minute of every day for years, not just car trips. Common sense tells me polluted cities like LA can cause much worse symptoms since it's in the air the child breaths every day all day - inside our out.
    No more children eight and under breathing the LA air!

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Odd how we are so quick to crack down on Tobacco, and yet the movement is in favor of marijuana.

    In the meantime, in defense of honesty and consistency, let me know when the banners agree that we also need to ban children below the age of 8 from living in Los Angeles.
    Why did you address this post to me? I didn't say anything about banning. I said laws would not work and it's too bad there are so many dumbasses around.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    When I was growing up, everyone smoked. The deacons at church went outside to smoke between Sunday School and the worship service. Doctors smoked... IN the examination room with their patients. Including my childhood doctor. Teachers smoked. There was a student smoking area at my Jr High and High schools.


    Everybody frigging smoked, all the time. I guess it is no wonder I started at age 13... I've often said it was "in self-defense".


    I remember riding in a Buick with my parents, two sisters and their husbands... all of them smoking. I was probably 6 or 7. It was cold, but I complained so much about the cloud of smoke in the car that they cracked the window a little for me, and I literally stuck my nose out of it trying to get a breath of fresh air. I didn't care that my nose was turning blue from the cold. It was suffocating in that car full of smoke.

    I remember resenting that the adults would not listen to me, that they were choking me to death.


    Well, that was then. We (collective we) knew smoking wasn't good for you, but we didn't know HOW bad it was, and there wasn't the societal anathema on it that exists today.


    I'm kind of torn on the issue. On the one hand I don't like gov't intrusion into private property or child rearing in any but very serious matters. OTOH I remember being a little kid thinking I was going to choke riding in a closed car full of smoking adults.


    Here's the thing: if it is one person smoking, with the window rolled down... that's one thing. Really, no big deal except for the anti-smoking fanatics.

    Multiple smokers with the windows rolled up.... that's a miserable thing to inflict on anybody, especially kids who lack the ability to MAKE someone roll down the damn window.


    So I dunno... exercising a little common sense courtesy would go a long way...

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I consider Canada to be a more advanced nation....Give us another decade, and we may catch up.
    You know what? In many ways, I hope you are right. We do indeed have some area's where we need to catch up.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I think many smokers are god damned selfish morons who are too stupid to know what they're doing to themselves and too pig-headed and arrogant to understand what they may be doing to others.

    I grew up with a smoking father. Cigars and pipes. I smoked as a late teen and early 20-something.

    Then I quit for good.

    I wonder how may people here objecting to this new ban are parents of small children, or just smokers without kids who are getting more and more butt-hurt over the growing public objection to their deadly and filthy habit?
    I'm a smoker with children. never smoked in the car, never smoked in the house, never smoked in front of my children (until they were adults). and like I said, there are many other stupid things that parents do that we should be worrying about. smoking in the car with the kiddies is way down on the list. but, of course, smoking is an easy target
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No more children eight and under breathing the LA air!
    A person cannot do anything about that. That is why this is a stupid comparison. They CAN not smoke in the car when their children are present, unless they just don't care and smoking is MORE important than their child's/children's health. My point being that it's too bad we have to even discuss having such dumb laws because people are such morons.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I think many smokers are god damned selfish morons who are too stupid to know what they're doing to themselves and too pig-headed and arrogant to understand what they may be doing to others.

    I grew up with a smoking father. Cigars and pipes. I smoked as a late teen and early 20-something.

    Then I quit for good.

    I wonder how may people here objecting to this new ban are parents of small children, or just smokers without kids who are getting more and more butt-hurt over the growing public objection to their deadly and filthy habit?
    I hear ya man, ex-anything people can get on the stump and preach it.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Why did you address this post to me?
    Because I was trying to hit "reply" and accidentally hit "reply with quote". Sorry for pinging you - I went back and changed it once I realized the error.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I look at it this way - if you want to kill yourself, who am I to stop you.
    If you want to take your children with you, then we have a problem.
    Do you have proof that second hand smoke kills children?

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No more children eight and under breathing the LA air!
    Parents Must Leave L.A. Or Face Fines And Eventually Imprisonment.

    We Are From The Government And We Are Here To Help.

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