View Poll Results: Do you agree with ban on smoking inside cars with children?

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  • Yes - I like this ban

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  • Yes - I like it, but age should be older than 8

    21 22.58%
  • No - I should be able to smoke wherever I want

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I don't consider much of anything in your post to resemble facts. That's why I thanked you for your opinion. So, thanks for your opinion, again.

    a)cigarette smoke is a known carcinogen with links to numerous health problems (including death)

    Not an opinion. The science settled this one a long time ago.

    b)opening a window does not actually prevent cigarette smoke from entering the entire vehicle, as any smoker or passenger already well knows.

    Not an opinion. I understand that it doesn't enter the rest of the vehicle from your perception, but no nonsmoking passenger in a car will support this. It's a smoker's fantasy and nothing more.

    c)children have extremely limited powers in preventing parents from smoking. Sure, they can ask the parent to stop smoking, but if the parent insists then the child is crap out of luck.

    Not an opinion. The parent makes the rules, feeds and clothes the child, provides the shelter, etc. That a child has limited decision making powers is not up for interpretation.

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    a)cigarette smoke is a known carcinogen with links to numerous health problems (including death)

    Not an opinion. The science settled this one a long time ago.

    b)opening a window does not actually prevent cigarette smoke from entering the entire vehicle, as any smoker or passenger already well knows.

    Not an opinion. I understand that it doesn't enter the rest of the vehicle from your perception, but no nonsmoking passenger in a car will support this. It's a smoker's fantasy and nothing more.

    c)children have extremely limited powers in preventing parents from smoking. Sure, they can ask the parent to stop smoking, but if the parent insists then the child is crap out of luck.

    Not an opinion. The parent makes the rules, feeds and clothes the child, provides the shelter, etc. That a child has limited decision making powers is not up for interpretation.
    It would seem a nerve has been struck. Interesting.

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    b)opening a window does not actually prevent cigarette smoke from entering the entire vehicle, as any smoker or passenger already well knows.

    Not an opinion. I understand that it doesn't enter the rest of the vehicle from your perception, but no nonsmoking passenger in a car will support this. It's a smoker's fantasy and nothing more.
    Except is lacks the proof of the smoke actually getting to the other person. It certainly might get there, but it doesn't always get to them. This is not an opinion.

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    why not outlaw smoking, texting, use of cell phone and dvd players while driving. There lots of things soccer moms practice that endanger the welfare of children

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Except is lacks the proof of the smoke actually getting to the other person. It certainly might get there, but it doesn't always get to them. This is not an opinion.
    But it can, or cannot, depending on the person.

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Except is lacks the proof of the smoke actually getting to the other person. It certainly might get there, but it doesn't always get to them. This is not an opinion.
    Yes, for the sake of the child's health, he must cease breathing in the presence of smokers, particularly in an automobile.

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Trying to defend the idea of making your kids breath smoke is so absurd I really cant see the need to discuss it. Perhaps the fact the discussion took place at all reflects on the mental health system of this country more than anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Yes, for the sake of the child's health, he must cease breathing in the presence of smokers, particularly in an automobile.
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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    why not outlaw smoking, texting, use of cell phone and dvd players while driving. There lots of things soccer moms practice that endanger the welfare of children
    IMO, smoking in a closed area with children, even others, is going over the line..
    What we need is a better education and a better people.
    Having a law against this is too difficult and costly to effectively enforce.

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    Re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well you and I will have to agree to disagree on the banning issue. I think it is unenforceable and a waste of time, money and human resources.
    It is just as enforceable as seatbelt and child safety seat laws. They work on the same principles. And the point really isn't massive enforcement. As I stated earlier in this thread, the point is deterrent because of the possibility of enforcement. It's basically to bring attention to stupid/ignorant parents that "hey, maybe you shouldn't smoke with your child in the car".

    No laws completely prevent people from doing the thing that is illegal. But many act as a pretty good deterrent from the activity.
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