Semper Fidelis, Semper Liber.
Stolen fair and square from the Capt. Courtesey himself.I spit at lots of people through my computer screen. Not only does it "teach them a lesson" but it keeps the screen clean and shiny.
AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.
No sir. This is demonstrably false.
Many OTHERWISE GOOD PEOPLE do a *few* questionable things, do they not? We are none of us perfect. Does a single flaw make us instantly all bad? Most would say no...
Some Vegans probably say anyone who encourages their child to eat meat is a horrific monster who should never have kids. Does that make it so? Well, they could argue the health benefits... but eating meat doesn't have the social stigma that smoking does... today, the only truly SAFE group to utterly disparage is smokers...
My parents smoked with me in the car as a kid... and I guarantee you they loved me. I have 1000x as much proof of that as I need. That they had feet of clay and a few faults doesn't change that.
Now how about we lay off the ridiculous extremes and talk about this like rational persons instead of knee-jerk zealots....
Fiddling While Rome Burns
Carthago Delenda Est
"I used to roll the dice; see the fear in my enemies' eyes... listen as the crowd would sing, 'now the old king is dead, Long Live the King.'.."
“In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.” -Napoleon
Besides, this is much more a rights vs rights issue. The right of the child to be able to breathe smokefree air over the right of the parent to smoke in their car while the children are with them. And this one is really not that hard to enforce (other laws and policies already mean police officers are looking inside your car while you are driving), unlike trying to ban smoking in someone's personal home which would be extremely hard to enforce without some serious issues dealing with warrants.
"A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt
Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.
Is it good parenting to smoke around your kids and their developing lungs? Hell no.
This, however, is the US. If a person wants to be a bad parent and smoke with their kids in the car, it's none of my business. And it's dang sure not the business of the flippin' government. This isn't, to me, the same as requiring seat belts or car seats. This goes too far.
What's next? Making it illegal to fart in a restaurant?
We have too many laws as it is.
No matter how much some would like to see it happen, we cannot legislate personal responsibility or legislate away the consequences of a lack of personal responsibility.
Farting doesn't cause cancer but I bet you would hate growing up having to tolerate flatulent parents. I have the same aversion to smelly feet, for the same reason. My father would come home, kick his boots off and smell up the whole house. I require my boys to take their shoes off near the door, socks in a very small laundry bin just for socks, and powder their feet. That's only when they eventually take their shoes off, I don't mind shoes in the house normally.
My late grandfather smoked a pipe and I never minded. There's something about cigarettes. And chew....have your cancer if you want it, but I don't want to be around anyone spitting all the time. I would even avoid you if you had some weird medical condition that made you spit.
I'm a dick like that.
Last edited by Jerry; 01-06-14 at 11:42 PM.