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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    I see a lot of people wanting the government to supplement childcare for inept parents. They seem incapable of realizing that liberty excludes security to a large degree. yes, without a smoking ban, some nimrod will expose a child to secondhand smoke in a car and some wouldn't even bother to roll down the window. Imo, those ****ing morons should be eliminated from the gene pool. However, I don't support yet MORE laws to protect people from stupidity. It's guaranteed, these laws will not stop with No smoking in the car. Besides, society can't even prevent child sexual abuse. How's about we end child sexual exploitation, murder, and folks not paying child support. Then maybe after we've solved child hunger, we can worry about second hand smoke.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Yes, it is. Why would you smoke with a child in the car if you knew it might cause them respiratory problems. Why the hell would you do that?
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Take some Windex cleaner and a white paper towel and go clean the inside windows in a smoker car.

    Tar and nicotine go everywhere regardless of a "cracked" window.

    It's grossly disgusting.

    Subjecting small children to a very confined space, and a cancerous airborne substance is borderline abusive.

    This isn't about YOUR right to smoke, it'a about small childrens rights to not be subjected to YOUR smoke.

    Would you hand your small child a cigarette and allow them to smoke it?
    Children are property just like my dog or cat. I smoke my cigars in my cigar smoking pickup with my dogs and children kin on occasion, children and dogs and cats can handle smoking on occasion just fine with NO ill effects.

    My parents smoked, their parents smoked, and their parents before them. Everyone turned out perfectly fine including me, I smoke cigars on occasion. My lungs are perfectly normal much to the chagrin of my physician. By the way second hand smoke has NEVER been proven to be demonstrably directly harmful in any meaningful study. Secondhand smoke as you call it is severely diluted in logarithmic fashion the farther one is from the source of the smoke. Further DIRECTLY inhaling the smoke undiluted takes on the order of decades ie 30 plus years continuously to become dangerous in the form of cancer, though lung capacity becomes more limited over time due to damage from direct inhalation.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Yes, it is. Why would you smoke with a child in the car if you knew it might cause them respiratory problems. Why the hell would you do that?
    Why would you do anything if it MIGHT result in something bad?

    The effects of second hand smoke, especially for limited periods of time (aka 2-4 times PER MONTH), are extremely wayyyyyyy overblown.

    And, there isn't a damned way to prove whether it was second hand smoke, or many of the other hundreds of thousands of chemicals breathed in due to normal air pollution.


    Im not a knee jerk reactionist...... We quit smoking in the house when our first was born and never smoke another cigarette in the house again... because that is a constant exposure. But im sorry, exposure is going to happen. If anything Im better preparing my kids' bodies to deal with limited exposure to this stuff than for them to go off to college and get sick. Thats how I look at it.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    If you smoke in the car with kids, you dont give a damn about the kids, law or not.
    I call bull****.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Of course you guys know more than doctors and stuff. Rationalize it all you want, but why would you take the chance, just on the outside chance all that medical science was right and you was wrong? I mean I know you guys are almost certainly right, and you know so much more than them dumbass doctors, but just on the outside chance they were right and you were wrong, why? Why would you do it?
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    Why would you do anything if it MIGHT result in something bad?

    The effects of second hand smoke, especially for limited periods of time (aka 2-4 times PER MONTH), are extremely wayyyyyyy overblown.

    And, there isn't a damned way to prove whether it was second hand smoke, or many of the other hundreds of thousands of chemicals breathed in due to normal air pollution.


    Im not a knee jerk reactionist...... We quit smoking in the house when our first was born and never smoke another cigarette in the house again... because that is a constant exposure. But im sorry, exposure is going to happen. If anything Im better preparing my kids' bodies to deal with limited exposure to this stuff than for them to go off to college and get sick. Thats how I look at it.
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    I call bull****.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Why would you do anything if it MIGHT result in something bad?

    The effects of second hand smoke, especially for limited periods of time (aka 2-4 times PER MONTH), are extremely wayyyyyyy overblown.

    And, there isn't a damned way to prove whether it was second hand smoke, or many of the other hundreds of thousands of chemicals breathed in due to normal air pollution.


    Im not a knee jerk reactionist...... We quit smoking in the house when our first was born and never smoke another cigarette in the house again... because that is a constant exposure. But im sorry, exposure is going to happen. If anything Im better preparing my kids' bodies to deal with limited exposure to this stuff than for them to go off to college and get sick. Thats how I look at it.
    What?? Exposing children to cigarette smoke isn't the same as exposing them to simple viruses at an early age thus building their immunity. Toxic exposure is cumulative and leads to numerous health problems.

    I don't know what you've been reading, but exposing your kids to toxins doesn't make them stronger.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    One should not have to have this discussion with an adult. I am going to bed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    What?? Exposing children to cigarette smoke isn't the same as exposing them to simple viruses at an early age thus building their immunity. Toxic exposure is cumulative and leads to numerous health problems.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    What?? Exposing children to cigarette smoke isn't the same as exposing them to simple viruses at an early age thus building their immunity. Toxic exposure is cumulative and leads to numerous health problems.

    I don't know what you've been reading, but exposing your kids to toxins doesn't make them stronger.
    So your answer to people's stupidity is more government involvement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    So your answer to people's stupidity is more government involvement?
    Non sequitur.

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