View Poll Results: Do you agree with ban on smoking inside cars with children?

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    I voted other. I did so because it is plain to me that the anti smoking crusade has led to hyperbolic claims about the effects of secondhand smoke. While I think it is very likely there is some effect, it is difficult to wade through what passes for analysis of the studies. The crusaders have ruined their credibility. As a consequence, I am having difficulty determining whether the danger posed is comparable to having your children live in a polluted city or ... what, exactly. And, no, I don't think that ANY amount of danger warrants a law.

    For the record, I quit smoking (again) 2 years ago. I quit because I didn't like the effect on my body and mood day to day. I sincerely hope it was the last time I quit.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    I'm guessing enforcement is not a top priority. Not worried.

    I did so because it is plain to me that the anti smoking crusade has led to hyperbolic claims about the effects of secondhand smoke.
    I don't smoke, but I think many non-smokers are God damned pussies. While an undergraduate, I got to hear all sorts of nonsense from Minnesotan liberals about the harmful effects of second-hand smoke with incredibly strong wind gusts and large open spaces. The mere act of being behind a smoker was so horrible as to demand that no one do it. Of course, when it's -30, the only poor souls that are outside (apparently filling the air with harmful carcinogens) are smokers, huddling together around the heated glow of their cigarettes.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I'm guessing enforcement is not a top priority. Not worried.



    I don't smoke, but I think many non-smokers are God damned pussies. While an undergraduate, I got to hear all sorts of nonsense from Minnesotan liberals about the harmful effects of second-hand smoke with incredibly strong wind gusts and large open spaces. The mere act of being behind a smoker was so horrible as to demand that no one do it. Of course, when it's -30, the only poor souls that are outside smoking (apparently filling the air with harmful carcinogens) are smokers, huddling together around the heated glow of their cigarettes.
    Yeah, but this is about smoking inside your car with a baby or children. Some dumb people even keep the windows rolled up and fish bowl the car with cigarette smoke. That HAS to have some effect on health. I agree though that a law is probably not going to be effective at all.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Keep the window cracked. Good enough.
    Modern automobiles, beginning with Saab, way back in 1961, have had flow-thru ventilation....so, if this is "good enough", I do not know. Parents who love their children simply will NOT smoke in their presence,,,but,,,love cannot be legislated....can it ???
    Don't our police have enough to do ?
    BTW, I doubt if a "cracked open" window will be sufficient.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    I guess we just have to accept the fact that some people are idiots and they are going to have children.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yeah, but this is about smoking inside your car with a baby or children. Some dumb people even keep the windows rolled up and fish bowl the car with cigarette smoke. That HAS to have some effect on health. I agree though that a law is probably not going to be effective at all.
    Think about it though... living in NYC its just bad just walking outside some days. LA the same thing. Bakersfield, Phoenix, Pittsburgh.... There are still cities where the air quality is so bad it is some of the worst air in the nation. Isn't it a bit hypocritical for some states to create new laws about smoking in cars when just living in their cities is like smoking a pack a day? Funny thing about air quality... according to Health Magazine, 6 out of the 13 worst cities with air pollution is one of the most regulated States - California.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yeah, but this is about smoking inside your car with a baby or children. Some dumb people even keep the windows rolled up and fish bowl the car with cigarette smoke. That HAS to have some effect on health. I agree though that a law is probably not going to be effective at all.
    That's why I said enforcement is not going to be a priority, so I would not be worried about enforcement, resources being used to deal with this (as opposed to seat belt use), and so forth.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Think about it though... living in NYC its just bad just walking outside some days. LA the same thing. Bakersfield, Phoenix, Pittsburgh.... There are still cities where the air quality is so bad it is some of the worst air in the nation. Isn't it a bit hypocritical for some states to create new laws about smoking in cars when just living in their cities is like smoking a pack a day? Funny thing about air quality... according to Health Magazine, 6 out of the 13 worst cities with air pollution is one of the most regulated States - California.
    I don't know if smoking in the car with the windows rolled up is as bad for a baby as breathing the air in a polluted city, and common sense would tend to tell me that it isn't as bad, when you can see that the baby is inhaling pretty much all smoke while inside the fish bowled car. That's disgusting!

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Government is getting way too far into our lives

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    That's why I said enforcement is not going to be a priority, so I would not be worried about enforcement, resources being used to deal with this (as opposed to seat belt use), and so forth.
    Well if people know they aren't going to enforce it, then what's the point anyway?

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