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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    I can sort of see banning it and giving tickets for doing it as not being entirely unreasonable. I mean, I AM a smoker, and *I* would not wish to be stuck in a car with two or three smokers and the windows rolled up.

    But calling it child abuse, which makes it a DSS issue and something the kids could theoretically be taken away from the parents and put into the "system" (where 25% suffer sexual abuse in foster care) strikes me as WAYYYY too extreme a reaction.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

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    Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501] Cardinal, Scatt... this isn't going anywhere good, so let's head it off before someone gets gigged...

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I can sort of see banning it and giving tickets for doing it as not being entirely unreasonable. I mean, I AM a smoker, and *I* would not wish to be stuck in a car with two or three smokers and the windows rolled up.

    But calling it child abuse, which makes it a DSS issue and something the kids could theoretically be taken away from the parents and put into the "system" (where 25% suffer sexual abuse in foster care) strikes me as WAYYYY too extreme a reaction.
    I don't think anyone would argue that murder and sexual abuse aren't scarier, more immediate threats, but long term and potentially deadly health risks via cigarette smoke vs. a 25% chance of sexual abuse is an utterly morbid choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That works. You could also exhale away from the kids while smoking in the car.
    Exactly... Exhale out the ****ing window you cracked open.


    It was goddamn 2 degrees out today. I had no children in my truck on the way to work. I had my window rolled down a bit and was exhaling out the window.

    My truck only smells like ash because I keep an ashtray instead of being an inconsiderate prick and throwing my cigarette butts on the ground out the window.
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    If you smoke in the car with kids, you dont give a damn about the kids, law or not.
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    Exactly... Exhale out the ****ing window you cracked open.


    It was goddamn 2 degrees out today. I had no children in my truck on the way to work. I had my window rolled down a bit and was exhaling out the window.

    My truck only smells like ash because I keep an ashtray instead of being an inconsiderate prick and throwing my cigarette butts on the ground out the window.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I don't think anyone would argue that murder and sexual abuse aren't scarier, more immediate threats, but long term and potentially deadly health risks via cigarette smoke vs. a 25% chance of sexual abuse is an utterly morbid choice.


    Personally, having been a child stuffed in a car with smoking adults, I'd take that risk several hundred times over rather than having been torn from my family and put in the foster care system.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    If you smoke in the car with kids, you dont give a damn about the kids, law or not.
    You know this isn't true at all.

    ONE ACT does not prove whether someone cares about their kids or not.
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