View Poll Results: Do you agree with ban on smoking inside cars with children?

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  • Yes - I like this ban

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  • Yes - I like it, but age should be older than 8

    21 22.58%
  • No - I should be able to smoke wherever I want

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  • other - please explain

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Nope, had its own floor to ceiling windows, iphone chargers, the whole nine yards. It was the real deal. The room was so beautiful it made me want to be a smoker myself.
    Wow. The smoking rooms in the atlanta airport look like a 70s party. Its a super smokey room, except it doesnt smell as good as a 70s party would.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Yeah, you said that already.

    Appleby's? TGI Fridays? A newspaper route? Anything at all?
    Why would I work in retail?

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Why would I work in retail?
    Fabulous. I'm arguing with a middle schooler.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Fabulous.
    Or someone with value.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Something related to this came up earlier in this thread, in which I said that it would be extremely difficult to make an argument against food (or barbecues) because they are in nature nutritional requirements, while cigarettes are only harmful. Your plant reference is nonsense because plant fragrances aren't carcinogenic.
    The conversion of a plant via heat has been deemed hazardous. The conversion of food via heat, or which plants are considered food, could very well be considered hazardous. Any attempt to dodge such a real possiblity only serves to underline your desire to protect the agenda while shutting your eyes to reality.

    That is your choice, and evidence of a willingness by many to ignore the real slippery slope that has been entered on to.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    The conversion of a plant via heat has been deemed hazardous. The conversion of food via heat, or which plants are considered food, could very well be considered hazardous. Any attempt to dodge such a real possiblity only serves to underline your desire to protect the agenda while shutting your eyes to reality.

    That is your choice, and evidence of a willingness by many to ignore the real slippery slope that has been entered on to.
    Only if we stray hopelessly from the topic. Facts:

    a)cigarette smoke is a known carcinogen with links to numerous health problems (including death)
    b)opening a window does not actually prevent cigarette smoke from entering the entire vehicle, as any smoker or passenger already well knows.
    c)children have extremely limited powers in preventing parents from smoking. Sure, they can ask the parent to stop smoking, but if the parent insists then the child is crap out of luck.

    The rest of this thread has been amusing navel gazing, but the above is what's important. As I said earlier, we don't need to bring the slippery slope into this since the ban can be defended on its own merits.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Wow. The smoking rooms in the atlanta airport look like a 70s party. Its a super smokey room, except it doesnt smell as good as a 70s party would.
    Unfortunately I've been exposed to 70's porn, and am having a difficult time connecting "70's party" with any positive imagery.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    The conversion of a plant via heat has been deemed hazardous. The conversion of food via heat, or which plants are considered food, could very well be considered hazardous. Any attempt to dodge such a real possiblity only serves to underline your desire to protect the agenda while shutting your eyes to reality.

    That is your choice, and evidence of a willingness by many to ignore the real slippery slope that has been entered on to.
    I agree, it would be a bad idea to light your steak on fire and breathe in the fumes.

    Of course, applying heat to both plant and meat ... all I can say is mmm broccoli, steak, and cheese sauce

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Slippery slope arguments are irrelevant here since this ban can be defended on its own merits.
    ^ that argument has been used to justify all sorts of breaches in liberty. If people need the government to hold their hand, keeping them safe and raising their kids for them.. this republic is already on its way out the door.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

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    Or someone with value.
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