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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Most will not do so in their cars in order to avoid a ticket/fine. Just that little bit might help.
    No. It will give the government a reason to further take money away from citizens. As far as protecting the child it does nothing. I am certain that hours upon hours of sitting in a smoke filled house is not going to be offset by attempting to get rid of the times when they around it in a well ventilated vehicle. This is more a case of a bunch of whiny people who don't want to see it. The fact is these kids are at no less of a risk. They will still be breathing in smoke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    No. It will give the government a reason to further take money away from citizens. As far as protecting the child it does nothing. I am certain that hours upon hours of sitting in a smoke filled house is not going to be offset by attempting to get rid of the times when they around it in a well ventilated vehicle. This is more a case of a bunch of whiny people who don't want to see it. The fact is these kids are at no less of a risk. They will still be breathing in smoke.
    I'm perfectly happy if the very least it achieves is a good slap upside the heads of parents who insist through their haze of drug addiction on exposing their kids to deadly carcinogens. Oh, I just weep for their lost freedoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I'm perfectly happy if the very least it achieves is a good slap upside the heads of parents who insist through their haze of drug addiction on exposing their kids to deadly carcinogens. Oh, I just weep for their lost freedoms.
    You mean slap upside the head for exposing their kids only in their car.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    There is no danger to public safety when a person smokes in their car. That is not applicable. The concern is that after a kid sits in a house full of smoke for 18 hours a day or more that someone smoking in a well ventilated car is going too far. I understand laws that protect the general public. Such as speeding laws. But a person smoking a cigarette, which is legal, is now being told they cannot do it in their own property. That is going too far.

    Also you didn't answer my question. If something is widely considered safer for a person/people should it be mandated? By that same point, should things that are widely considered unhealthy or unsafe be illegal?
    There is a danger to the safety of the child in the car. (The law here stipulates that a person cannot smoke in a car that a child is in, not just that they can't smoke in their car period.)

    Your question is too simple. There are many factors to take into account, not just safety, which is why smoking remains legal to begin with, while other harmful drugs are not legal.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    No. It will give the government a reason to further take money away from citizens. As far as protecting the child it does nothing. I am certain that hours upon hours of sitting in a smoke filled house is not going to be offset by attempting to get rid of the times when they around it in a well ventilated vehicle. This is more a case of a bunch of whiny people who don't want to see it. The fact is these kids are at no less of a risk. They will still be breathing in smoke.
    Just because a person smokes in their car with the child in it doesn't mean they would smoke in their home with their child in it. Certain many do, but not all. My husband doesn't smoke in our house nor in the car with the children in it, but he has no issue smoking with me in the car.

    But it also comes to the level of expectation of privacy a person has when it comes to being in public vice their home. It is sort of like the drinking alcohol thing. You are free to drink alcohol in your home to whatever extent you wish, but you cannot drink it inside a motor vehicle even if you are a passenger.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    ... but you cannot drink it inside a motor vehicle even if you are a passenger.
    Completely off topic, but I don't see the purpose of that law. It was already proposed that phones should be automatically shut off if the gps found them to be moving at an automobile-like speed in order to decrease driver texting, until it was pointed out that maybe the passenger might like to use the phone for something.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Just because something is unhealthy or selfish doesnt mean it should be illegal. To me this isn't a question of should people smoke around others, but rather the government over stepping. Just because something is good for you, or bad for you doesn't mean the government should be able to force it upon you.
    The inference of the question isn't whether or not smoking is unhealthy for the smoker but does it compromise the health and by extension the lives of innocent children and if yes is it a legitimate function of government to protect innocent citizens from harm, harm they they did not invite.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Completely off topic, but I don't see the purpose of that law. It was already proposed that phones should be automatically shut off if the gps found them to be moving at an automobile-like speed in order to decrease driver texting, until it was pointed out that maybe the passenger might like to use the phone for something.
    I actually agree with you. I can see why people feel they should do it but I don't really find it fair to make it completely illegal to drink in a car, even if you are only a passenger. A passenger drinking does not put anyone in danger. It is as if you are assuming the driver will drink simply because there is an open drink in the car. And the phone thing is even worse.

    But smoking in the car is absolutely harmful to anyone in the car, so it is different. I was simply pointing out that we do have more privacy in our homes than in our cars. Heck, even search laws are more relaxed for a car than a person's home. The minute a vehicle could be considered a "home" in fact (although it must be stationary and not likely to move anytime soon), then the search laws become more stringent and in line with those of an actual house or apartment.
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