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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Oh, I think that kids who breath in quantities of tobacco tar and compounds will register sufficient levels in order to show a connection.
    All of which will not be present years down the road. How are you going to prove that their parents caused it? You're not.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    (but it's okay to kill them before they're born )
    Within the realm of choice, there is room to chose pro-life.
    Within the realm of pro-life, there is no choice.

    I chose freedom and greater choice, just on principal, not that I'd make that choice or support that choice.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    All of which will not be present years down the road.
    So...you admit that it's not an impossible form of collecting data. Even if its available at a later date. Isn't that how it usually works with most scientific data collected?

    As we say down in Texas, "better late than never."

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    Minivans and SUVs aren't exactly confined spaces. Put the kids in the back of the Excursion and smoke way up there in the front.
    You obviously do not own a minivan. My husband's ashes end up in the back of our Mazda 5, even on the very back window. Air circulates, particularly when you have the windows open to dissipate some of the smoke. I'm willing to bet the smoke goes all the way back there as well (it did when I was little).

    Plus, people are assuming that this law just applies to the driver (I just realized this line of argument). This applies to all riders of the vehicle (I'm pretty sure anyway). So what about if you have more than one person smoking and one is in the back, with your/their children? Are you going to tell say only those up front can smoke, while those in the back can be fined?
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    All of which will not be present years down the road. How are you going to prove that their parents caused it? You're not.
    The year is not 1950 (no matter how much Mad Men you may be watching). We know cigarette smoke is a deadly carcinogen.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    (but it's okay to kill them before they're born )
    Yes.
    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Hanging your hat entirely on the CURRENT legality of something you want to be legal and others want to make illegal does not constitute a salient argument. At all.
    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    What is "alive" and how does it apply to the fetus?

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The year is not 1950 (no matter how much Mad Men you may be watching). We know cigarette smoke is a deadly carcinogen.
    To the fetus?

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    All you have to do is crack the window nearest whoever is smoking. The draft pulls the smoke.
    Not all of it.

    Have any of you ever ridden in a car at all with someone who smokes while being a non-smoker yourself? Because I do all the time and my husband smokes with the window open (just about froze when he did this on our first roadtrip to visit families together through the the Smoky Mountains in Nov), and I not only still breathe in some of his smoke, but also usually get hit with ashes as well.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The year is not 1950 (no matter how much Mad Men you may be watching). We know cigarette smoke is a deadly carcinogen.
    Which of course you can't prove the connection between someone getting cancer when they are sixty and their parents smoking in the car back when they were eight.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by GEIxBattleRifle View Post
    Yes.
    With cigarette smoke?

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