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Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

Do you agree with ban on smoking inside cars with children?


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Smoking with children in the car is literally child abuse and should be illegal...
 
As I said, this is happening all over the country.. Even spousal abuse is a reason for CPS to take your kids, or a complaint from a teacher, neighbor or family member....It is becoming the norm... They make money on these cases and much more money if and when they can get these kids adopted out...

The "norm" is NOT for kids to be taken from their families... to think so is uneducated.
 
You are just not getting it....one of so many Americans that are in denial of what is actually happening in this country....Take some time and actually research this problem..CPS has more power than your police dept... I was not talking about emergency orders on an actual case of abuse....

Without some facts/evidence you are just blowing charbroiled feces out of your butt...
 
Show us statistical evidence that case workers regularly ignore procedure. I'll wait.

Just don't hold our breath...
 
Look, I have to go by personal experience and observation...My parents were raised in a smoking household, as was I, my children and my children's children...Nobody has asthma, cancer or a respiratory illness....I take all medical studies with a grain of salt...There are many factors that contribute to such illnesses. Smoking may or may not be "one" of these factors...

Well there you have it folks. Conclusive proof that smoking isn't bad for you at all and every stitch of evidence to the contrary is just conspiracy nonsense.

Light 'em up boys and girls....and don't forget to include your children too. Give them a chance to enjoy the fine and wondrous addiction of smoking tobacco products. Let them chew it too. No reason to believe any of the claims about gum and mouth cancer.


IT'S ALL LIES !!!!!!!!!

Juanita says so.
 
Show us statistical evidence that case workers regularly ignore procedure.

Why would I do that? I made no such claim of any regularity.
 
Why do you people keep trying to derail this thread???

This isn't about forced removal of children from the home.

It's about smoking inside an f'n car with a child present.

Start a new thread if you like.....but damn.....
 
Trying to defend the idea of making your kids breath smoke is so absurd I really cant see the need to discuss it. Perhaps the fact the discussion took place at all reflects on the mental health system of this country more than anything.

Hey everybody....

Parents for decades in the 1900s were mentally insane and in need of treatment all along and we didn't know it!!

All because they smoked around kids!!!!!
 
Hey everybody....

Parents for decades in the 1900s were mentally insane and in need of treatment all along and we didn't know it!!

All because they smoked around kids!!!!!

Do you advocate women smoking while pregnant?
They used to do that back in the good old days as well.

Is that okay with you?
 
Please see below.





Just say it. Print it. Post it right out there for all to see.

You thinks it's perfectly safe, 100% harmless, and not in the least bit ignorant or unintelligent to strap a small child into a car seat, get in the car, and light up a cigarette or two while driving around.

You've done this. You do this. You'll continue to do it in the future.

Have done. Will do (as long as the windows cracked). No ill effects.
 
Do you advocate women smoking while pregnant?
They used to do that back in the good old days as well.

Is that okay with you?

But a fetus is not a "person" until birth, so you can drink and smoke and use drugs up until that point while pregnant.
 
Do you advocate women smoking while pregnant?
No. I don't advocate women smoking while pregnant. However, I refer to my wife's doctor's advice during her first pregnancy.
"If it is causing too much stress to quit, then it is better for the baby for you to continue smoking"
 
No. I don't advocate women smoking while pregnant. However, I refer to my wife's doctor's advice during her first pregnancy.
"If it is causing too much stress to quit, then it is better for the baby for you to continue smoking"

Wow. Her doctor wouldn't have happened to be this guy, would he?

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No... It was some female who nearly passed out during the C-Section because of her own blood sugar levels.......

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Just say it. Print it. Post it right out there for all to see.

You thinks it's perfectly safe, 100% harmless, and not in the least bit ignorant or unintelligent to strap a small child into a car seat, get in the car, and light up a cigarette or two while driving around.

You've done this. You do this. You'll continue to do it in the future.

Strapping your kid in the car and hurling your car down the road at 55 mph is far more dangerous than smoking. Life is full of dangers. Life is full of dangers. Do we really need the government to manage every bit of danger we introduce into society? I don’t advocate smoking around anyone. I don’t smoke, and if I did I wouldn’t do it in the car with my kids present. I’d like to think people are conscientious enough to do the same. But some aren’t. Who are you or I or the government to dictate how parents behave around their kids? With every little thing we see wrong in our society, instead of trying to collectively solve that problem, we look towards the government to fix it. The result is it gets more broken. I don’t want people going to jail or being fined for doing something as silly and stupid as smoking when their kids are around simply because an outraged few and our government have decided it for us.

At the turn of the new year it’s reported that 40,000 new laws went into effect. 40,000! I can’t even fathom what all these could possibly be, but I think this indicates how our government is aimed at managing nearly every aspect of our lives, and how this country have grown to expect this. Little chunks at a time our liberties dwindle away.
 
Strapping your kid in the car and hurling your car down the road at 55 mph is far more dangerous than smoking. Life is full of dangers. Life is full of dangers. Do we really need the government to manage every bit of danger we introduce into society? I don’t advocate smoking around anyone. I don’t smoke, and if I did I wouldn’t do it in the car with my kids present. I’d like to think people are conscientious enough to do the same. But some aren’t. Who are you or I or the government to dictate how parents behave around their kids? With every little thing we see wrong in our society, instead of trying to collectively solve that problem, we look towards the government to fix it. The result is it gets more broken. I don’t want people going to jail or being fined for doing something as silly and stupid as smoking when their kids are around simply because an outraged few and our government have decided it for us.

At the turn of the new year it’s reported that 40,000 new laws went into effect. 40,000! I can’t even fathom what all these could possibly be, but I think this indicates how our government is aimed at managing nearly every aspect of our lives, and how this country have grown to expect this. Little chunks at a time our liberties dwindle away.

Because life is full of dangers doesn't seem to justify an unnecessary danger to me.
 
Is there such thing as a necessary danger?

Yes. Safety, as defined as the absence of risk, is unattainable; therefore we can only seek to minimize risk - not eliminate it. Even if you consider yourself as being exactly of median intelligence then half of the drivers that you share the roadway with are dumber than you are - that is a necessary risk. ;)
 
Have done. Will do (as long as the windows cracked). No ill effects.

That's because when you're a smoker your sense of smell is pretty thoroughly screwed. Fortunately, the effects aren't permanent: after quitting your sense of smell, with particular emphasis on your ability to smell cigarette smoke, returns with a vengeance.

Now, I'm not saying this to you, exactly, since it's pretty obvious you're just trolling at this point. But for any smokers who actually believe opening the windows work, well, it doesn't.
 
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But a fetus is not a "person" until birth, so you can drink and smoke and use drugs up until that point while pregnant.

Absolutely right. A fetus isn't a person. But after eons of women bringing conceptions to full term there is ample medical and scientific data, which shows that if a woman who has conceived chooses to drink, smoke, and use drugs up to the point of giving birth...the fetus, which might becomes a person at birth if it survives in the womb...could possibly be really ****ed up at birth.

So obviously engaging in those behaviors during pregnancy should taken into consideration by women who has conceived and who "chooses" to bring a conception to full term. I believe that while some women might not make those considerations...most do.
 
Absolutely right. A fetus isn't a person. But after eons of women bringing conceptions to full term there is ample medical and scientific data, which shows that if a woman who has conceived chooses to drink, smoke, and use drugs up to the point of giving birth...the fetus, which might becomes a person at birth if it survives in the womb...could possibly be really ****ed up at birth.

So obviously engaging in those behaviors during pregnancy should taken into consideration by women who has conceived and who "chooses" to bring a conception to full term. I believe that while some women might not make those considerations...most do.

But it is not a "person," so you can mess it up.
 
But it is not a "person," so you can mess it up.

Absolutely. Anything is possible. But as you are well aware, that's not the norm. Women usually make sound choices in how they deal with their pregnancies....whether or not they choose to bring a fetus to full term.
 
Absolutely. Anything is possible. But as you are well aware, that's not the norm. Women usually make sound choices in how they deal with their pregnancies....whether or not they choose to bring a fetus to full term.

I got it, non-persons are basically punching bags, if you so desire. A fetus, a dog, whatever.
 
I got it, non-persons are basically punching bags, if you so desire. A fetus, a dog, whatever.

that's your perception...and nothing related to reality or anything I stated.
 
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