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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Does it really?
    Yes. Just as car seat laws greatly reduced the amount of children/babies riding unrestrained in the car. I know for a fact that those like my father would not smoke in his car and drive if he was worried about breaking a law and possibly being fined for it. He might be upset about it, but he would still obey the law. And this is how a lot of people are.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Yes. Just as car seat laws greatly reduced the amount of children/babies riding unrestrained in the car. I know for a fact that those like my father would not smoke in his car and drive if he was worried about breaking a law and possibly being fined for it. He might be upset about it, but he would still obey the law. And this is how a lot of people are.
    How do you know it does?

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Well it is highest amongst 20-24 year olds so I assume that means those younger smoke less and more adults are quitting. I know that among my age group which is the younger one, smoking now carries a very negative around it and you will find any university level kid smoking only college kids. It seems the lower their intelligence the more likely they are to smoke.
    I have noticed, perhaps anecdotally, that young Asians are far more prone to be smokers than other young people and perhaps since we here in Canada have had such a large influx of new immigrants from Asia in the past decade or so, what I'm seeing is more cultural than age related.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    How do you know it does?
    Because I know people and the point of laws, particularly laws such as this. The point is deterrence.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You are in denial. I remember quite clearly being in the back of the car with my father smoking while driving and having that smoke come back toward me, not to mention the ashes. It absolutely is a problem. And as a child, you do not really have a say in making it stop because most of the time you have to be in the car with your parent and your parent(s) are likely not to care about your protests. My mother even defended my father's smoking in the car around us.
    I decided to respond to your post because a number of people have said children don't have a way of making it stop and I think that's mainly true but I wanted to relay what happened to my sister-in-law and her two sons a few decades back. Both the boys, twins, from a young age (5-6) would kick up a fuss and tell my sister-in-law to stop smoking, to quit, it's dirty, it's bad for her, etc. They were relentless and my brother, who doesn't smoke, didn't intervene because he'd tried to get her to stop for a long time without success. Well, as it turns out, one day she just said to hell with it and quit cold turkey and never smoked again - the boys were delighted, my brother was delighted, her family was delighted, and she ended up being better off for it. She was a bean-pole while she smoked and gained a good bit of weight after quitting, but her breathing greatly improved and she wasn't popping Hall's every two seconds and coughing, and generally her health vastly improved. She's quite thankful her two boys were such little bastards and never let up on her.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I decided to respond to your post because a number of people have said children don't have a way of making it stop and I think that's mainly true but I wanted to relay what happened to my sister-in-law and her two sons a few decades back. Both the boys, twins, from a young age (5-6) would kick up a fuss and tell my sister-in-law to stop smoking, to quit, it's dirty, it's bad for her, etc. They were relentless and my brother, who doesn't smoke, didn't intervene because he'd tried to get her to stop for a long time without success. Well, as it turns out, one day she just said to hell with it and quit cold turkey and never smoked again - the boys were delighted, my brother was delighted, her family was delighted, and she ended up being better off for it. She was a bean-pole while she smoked and gained a good bit of weight after quitting, but her breathing greatly improved and she wasn't popping Hall's every two seconds and coughing, and generally her health vastly improved. She's quite thankful her two boys were such little bastards and never let up on her.
    That's good, but everyone isn't the same and there are not only some parents who would simply ignore the complaining (I would hassle my father a lot although I also got flack from my mother for it) and he still smokes with major health issues and even a pace maker (he better hope he doesn't need a heart transplant), but there are other parents who will punish a child for such comments on their smoking. And there are other children who will be too afraid of losing their parents' love (unfounded or not) to speak up at all.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    That's good, but everyone isn't the same and there are not only some parents who would simply ignore the complaining (I would hassle my father a lot although I also got flack from my mother for it) and he still smokes with major health issues and even a pace maker (he better hope he doesn't need a heart transplant), but there are other parents who will punish a child for such comments on their smoking. And there are other children who will be too afraid of losing their parents' love (unfounded or not) to speak up at all.
    I agree - it's not the norm by a longshot - I just thought it would be nice to point out that sometimes parents actually do listen to their children and children can have a life-altering affect on their parents.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I agree - it's not the norm by a longshot - I just thought it would be nice to point out that sometimes parents actually do listen to their children and children can have a life-altering affect on their parents.
    Oh, I know sometimes it happens. And it is more likely with more support from others. Unfortunately, there are adults who could be a bigger influence who would rather not "risk" their relationship with the smoking adult to do so (this is really one of the only issues that my mother and I are in contention over, and ever have strongly disagreed on).
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    Enough with the fish bowled car already.

    Smokers are going to crack their windows as soon as their eyes start to burn. I used to smoke (it's been 8 years). I would always have my window down an inch, no matter what the temperature was outside.

    If the vehicle is moving, the venturi effect draws the smoke right out of the window.
    That is what smokers say to make themselves feel better about exposing their children to poisonous carcinogens. "Oh, I crack the window, it's all good." Stupidity.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    If the vehicle is moving, the venturi effect draws the smoke right out of the window.
    If I rolled my eyes as much as that statement required they'd pop out of my sockets.

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