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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Sounds like another reason to avoid Maryland.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I'll defend it. It's my kid, my car, my business, stay your do gooding ass out of my affairs...
    The government can't seem to leave smokers alone. :/

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Here it is under the age of 16 in most provinces but Nova Scotia where it is 19 (the age required to buy cigarettes).
    now you see that is a good idea. It would almost completely eliminate second hand smoke in cars because they will have learned not to smoke in cars for basically a 4th of their lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    now you see that is a good idea. It would almost completely eliminate second hand smoke in cars because they will have learned not to smoke in cars for basically a 4th of their lives.
    The younger generation is learning it anyways. We see smokers in our generation as pathetic losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    The younger generation is learning it anyways. We see smokers in our generation as pathetic losers.
    Who is we? I'm apart of that generation and I don't see smokers as pathetic losers. It's one destructive habit out of many. Pick your poison.

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    Child abuse is a legal definition. The Federal definition is



    https://www.childwelfare.gov/can/defining/federal.cfm

    This is broad enough to include repeated and extreme exposure of a known cancer-causing carcinogen to children.
    By your ridiculously broad interpretation, parents who allow their kids to be exposed to high fructos corn syrup (directly linked to diabetes) are also abusive. But why stop there? How about contact sports? That can cause permanent injury. hmm where to draw the line.. i mean god forbid something happens to Junior and Big Government isn't there with a band-aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    Who is we? I'm apart of that generation and I don't see smokers as pathetic losers. It's one destructive habit out of many. Pick your poison.
    Us kids born in the mid to late 90s at least. It is hard not to refer to them as those dirty smoker kids and the teachers have the same opinion as they are all losers.
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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    By your ridiculously broad interpretation, parents who allow their kids to be exposed to high fructos corn syrup (directly linked to diabetes) are also abusive. But why stop there? How about contact sports? That can cause permanent injury. hmm where to draw the line.. i mean god forbid something happens to Junior and Big Government isn't there with a band-aid.
    I think there's something to that, actually (the overeating, not the sports). Child diabetes is on the rise, and once you get it, it's for life.

    By the way, the body metabolizes hfcs the same as any sugar.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I didn't actually see that question. A good $300 ticket for smoking in the car with a child in it is fine. Where it is demonstrated that a much larger, chronic problem exists then yes, it should be investigated. This is no different than any other form of child abuse, hitting being a good example: of course it's nonsense to get a child protection officer involved if a kid gets a slap up the head for being an obnoxious scream-monster in public, but where it can be shown that something much more chronic than the isolated slap-up-the-head is going on is where an investigation is legitimate.

    In any case, if a parent is chronically exposing the child to deadly carcinogens then a prosecutor could make the case under the definition I pasted that child abuse is going on.
    That is doing nothing but taking resources away from kids who are in dire need.

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    re: Smoking Illegal With Children In Car[W:501]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I think there's something to that, actually (the overeating, not the sports). Child diabetes is on the rise, and once you get it, it's for life.

    By the way, the body metabolizes hfcs the same as any sugar.
    Wrong and wrong. I'm not here to give you a physiology lesson, but I will say that Type 2 diabetes is reversible.

    So you also believe that parents are child abusers if their kids over eat? you'd make a great social worker. They're tripping over their power trying to take kids from their homes and stick them in fostercare. Keeps them employed. And this is the same reason I believe people are being brainwashed into government servitude. More laws mean more government jobs and more control. Junior can keep his diabetes and secondhand smoke. I want liberty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    Wrong and wrong. I'm not here to give you a physiology lesson, but I will say that Type 2 diabetes is reversible.
    I think you meant to say treatable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    So you also believe that parents are child abusers if their kids over eat? you'd make a great social worker. They're tripping over their power trying to take kids from their homes and stick them in fostercare. Keeps them employed. And this is the same reason I believe people are being brainwashed into government servitude. More laws mean more government jobs and more control. Junior can keep his diabetes and secondhand smoke. I want liberty.
    I think overfeeding children is abuse, but I wouldn't know how that could be prosecutable as food is not in and of itself a destructive thing, unlike cigarette smoke which is only destructive. If actually attempted to prosecute a parent on the basis of overfeeding, I couldn't imagine what argument they'd use.
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