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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I could be wrong but, even in America, doesn't an employer have to pay at least 2 weeks severance for an employee fired without cause?

    Secondly, it's only natural and respectful, in my view, to give your current employer notice you're leaving so that they can have some time to replace you and so that you retain a good reputation with an employer you may need a reference from or perhaps even a job from sometime in the future.
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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

    US employers are not required to pay severance for firing people, nor are they required to give a two week notice. Both are courtesies that are left to the employer.

    Likewise, an employee is not required to a find a replacement for themselves on quitting, nor are they required to provide a two week notice. Both are courtesies left to the employee.



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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    If an employer wanted to get rid of an employee, they would tell the employee not to come to work the next day. So is it fair that the standard notice an employee is expected to give is two weeks?
    Companies will often tell them to leave when they put their two weeks notice in. Also, you can leave without notice but that company can tell another you did that (which looks bad).

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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

    I agree with others who've mentioned the "no burning bridges" concept - generally. I don't think it is necessarily wise to ever burn a bridge. Case in point (anecdotal): my current employer has over the course of my tenure with the company summarily "fired" a number of our clients and vendors for reasons I would only construe as emotional rather than rational. Yes, there was a reason for each of the firings, but in firing them he's now left his company with very few resources and even fewer opportunities to do business. Rather than swallow his pride, he exercised it to unwise ends imo. I've been with the company for about 6 years now and it's taken most of that time to repair a relationship with one of the key vendors in the area with whom he had issues prior to my arrival. Unfortunately, they are one of but 3 whose line of product is routinely specified for many of the projects on which we bid. In "firing" them he immediately reduced his opportunities for work by some 33% - and it DID affect our bottom line.

    At the other end of the spectrum, my wife lost her job years ago due to an office closure. They did offer her an opportunity to relocate though, albeit out of state. We decided it would be a good time for us so we agreed. I told my boss at the time what was happening and why we'd made the decision we did, and that I was giving him 3 month's notice. He promptly let me go. Consequently, I'm soured on the notion that we somehow MUST give our employers notice, 2 weeks or otherwise.

    So much depends on the circumstances and the players involved. I think it is GENERALLY prudent not to burn any bridges; you just never know what the consequences will be. At the same time, I can see situations where it simply doesn't matter, where it might even be the prudent thing to do. So I have no hard and fast rules here whatsoever. Judge each situation separately and choose the wisest course of action.
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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Should you give a two week notice or not?

    Just because you quit without notice doesn't mean they will lie about you.

    Just because you give a two week notice doesn't mean they will tell the truth about it.

    It seems that you are implying that the only reason to give a two week notice is to save your reputation. Your reputation is your reputation. Every place I ever worked made it very clear that we were on an at-will employment basis. I could leave when I got sick of the place. They could fire me when they got sick of me.

    Some people lie. Some people tell the truth. You can't stop it. Staying at a place when you have already given them the finger creates unnecessary tension. Bad things can happen during those two weeks.
    Dude, I am simply saying that if you are polite, get along with your boss and want a good recommendation then you should give your boss the courtesy of a two week notice. I am not making some idiotic blanket statement about what they will or will not do. I got great recommendations from past employers that I gave two weeks to. If you don't want to do that then don't.
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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    You should never burn your bridges...It could come back and bite you in the ass...
    True, that, but sometimes short-term satisfaction trumps long-term responsibility.
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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I worked for a Fortune 500 company that employed thousands worldwide; I loved my job and I was loyal to them. Bad-mouthing the company you work for is bound to get back to them, and putting it on a personal level, it hurts you more than it does them, because you can be replaced. Everyone has their bad days, but loyalty is a two-way street, and I found that attitude is just as important as job skills to an employer. My company treated me very well over the years, in both promotions, salary increases, and foreign language classes which they asked me to take, on my own time, and which they paid for, since it made me more valuable to them. In return I never worried about taking a day off when my children were in school plays or competing in sports events that I wanted to see, so it was fair. BTW, I gave them a months' notice when I left, which they appreciated, although they tried to talk me out of retiring early, which was a nice ego boost!

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    I failed to mention in my comments that my last employer, the one I was at for over 30 years, also was very accommodating when my mother was in her last years allowing me significant time off, with pay, and allowing me to alter my hours of work to accommodate her homecare worker's schedule as well. If I had been a person who only punched a clock and didn't give a little extra when needed, I'm not sure how I would have been able to handle the serious issues in my personal life at that time. I'm forever grateful and consider myself very well compensated even if I didn't get paid for every hour I put in over the years.
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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    I agree with others who've mentioned the "no burning bridges" concept - generally. I don't think it is necessarily wise to ever burn a bridge. Case in point (anecdotal): my current employer has over the course of my tenure with the company summarily "fired" a number of our clients and vendors for reasons I would only construe as emotional rather than rational. Yes, there was a reason for each of the firings, but in firing them he's now left his company with very few resources and even fewer opportunities to do business. Rather than swallow his pride, he exercised it to unwise ends imo. I've been with the company for about 6 years now and it's taken most of that time to repair a relationship with one of the key vendors in the area with whom he had issues prior to my arrival. Unfortunately, they are one of but 3 whose line of product is routinely specified for many of the projects on which we bid. In "firing" them he immediately reduced his opportunities for work by some 33% - and it DID affect our bottom line.

    At the other end of the spectrum, my wife lost her job years ago due to an office closure. They did offer her an opportunity to relocate though, albeit out of state. We decided it would be a good time for us so we agreed. I told my boss at the time what was happening and why we'd made the decision we did, and that I was giving him 3 month's notice. He promptly let me go. Consequently, I'm soured on the notion that we somehow MUST give our employers notice, 2 weeks or otherwise.

    So much depends on the circumstances and the players involved. I think it is GENERALLY prudent not to burn any bridges; you just never know what the consequences will be. At the same time, I can see situations where it simply doesn't matter, where it might even be the prudent thing to do. So I have no hard and fast rules here whatsoever. Judge each situation separately and choose the wisest course of action.
    I agree with what you've said and you make a good point about giving your employer notice - sometimes they won't react well - but I still think it's the right thing to do. In many cases, your new employer wants and expects you to give notice, and if you end up being shown the door when you do, your new employer will often take you on right away so you don't lose out.

    There are, actually, some pretty good reasons for an employer not to let a leaving employee stay working for a notice period, such as an employee trying to steal customers or secrets to take with them or sabotaging systems or customer relations. Here in Canada, however, even if they don't want you around, they still have to pay you severance to stay home during that notice period.
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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Singe View Post
    You think that's a contradiction? Finding something better doesn't mean that what I had was "wrong" or "bad." I hate analogies, but if you see that as a contradiction, this is the only way I can think of to explain it:

    If I was driving a 2008 Nissan, and it worked perfectly fine... but won a Lexus somehow... I'd drive the Lexus, but that wouldn't mean that the Nissan had something "wrong" with it or was "obviously bad." See what I mean?
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