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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

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    Only if you want a good recommendation....
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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

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    People rarely get to choose the kind of recommendation they get. You have no control over the actions of the other party.
    How does that refute or negate my premise?
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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    How does that refute or negate my premise?
    Should you give a two week notice or not?

    Just because you quit without notice doesn't mean they will lie about you.

    Just because you give a two week notice doesn't mean they will tell the truth about it.

    It seems that you are implying that the only reason to give a two week notice is to save your reputation. Your reputation is your reputation. Every place I ever worked made it very clear that we were on an at-will employment basis. I could leave when I got sick of the place. They could fire me when they got sick of me.

    Some people lie. Some people tell the truth. You can't stop it. Staying at a place when you have already given them the finger creates unnecessary tension. Bad things can happen during those two weeks.

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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I could be wrong but, even in America, doesn't an employer have to pay at least 2 weeks severance for an employee fired without cause?

    Secondly, it's only natural and respectful, in my view, to give your current employer notice you're leaving so that they can have some time to replace you and so that you retain a good reputation with an employer you may need a reference from or perhaps even a job from sometime in the future.
    I more or less agree with this.

    But my reason for giving 2 weeks notice is singular...reference.

    I don't give a rat's buttocks about the company, nor should I.

    They would fire me in an instant if they thought it would help the company...as they should.

    This is business, not personal.

    Waaaaay too many times I hear of people feeling loyalty to a company...nonsense.

    Employers love it when you feel loyalty...it means they can get you to work harder for little in return. Politicians do the same thing...only they call it 'patriotism'.

    Never work for the company...always work for yourself, IMO.
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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I more or less agree with this.

    But my reason for giving 2 weeks notice is singular...reference.

    I don't give a rat's buttocks about the company, nor should I.

    They would fire me in an instant if they thought it would help the company...as they should.

    This is business, not personal.

    Waaaaay too many times I hear of people feeling loyalty to a company...nonsense.

    Employers love it when you feel loyalty...it means they can get you to work harder for little in return. Politicians do the same thing...only they call it 'patriotism'.

    Never work for the company...always work for yourself, IMO.
    I appreciate that sentiment, but that was never my experience. I'm retired now but when working, I was never fired and when leaving a job, I always gave my employer notice I was leaving. My last place of employment lasted 30 plus years and attitude towards your employer, in my view, has a lot to do with whether or not you enjoy working and whether or not your employer feels any sense of loyalty to you and a desire to promote and retain you. Employers, and I was one, can tell pretty quickly from an employee's attitude whether or not they will invest any time and money in retaining an employee.

    Depends, I suppose, on what you want out of work.
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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I appreciate that sentiment, but that was never my experience. I'm retired now but when working, I was never fired and when leaving a job, I always gave my employer notice I was leaving. My last place of employment lasted 30 plus years and attitude towards your employer, in my view, has a lot to do with whether or not you enjoy working and whether or not your employer feels any sense of loyalty to you and a desire to promote and retain you. Employers, and I was one, can tell pretty quickly from an employee's attitude whether or not they will invest any time and money in retaining an employee.

    Depends, I suppose, on what you want out of work.
    I believe that you show up for work on time every day, work hard, always treat others with respect and then go home the minute the work day is done...but never anything more.

    I am not sure what else should be done.

    You are monetarily compensated for doing a certain amount of work.

    Now, you can do that amount of work. Or, you can do more work for the same compensation in the hope that this will help you get ahead faster.

    Now, if you like the work and/or this is the field you wish to make a career out of AND there is room for significant advancement then I suppose it might make sense (assuming of course the employer actually rewards hard work...not all do).

    But if you neither like the work nor feel there is much to be gained from working harder then the compensation calls for...then I guess you are then hoping that the employer will note your hard work in your reference.

    Two potential problems with that; 1) what if the employer doesn't adequately note the extent to which you worked on your reference (which happens) and 2) what about quality of life? Is staying late and feeling more tired/drained after work, day after day, month after month worth the possibility of a better reputation?

    I suppose that is up to the individual.


    For me, unless you are self-employed (or LOVE your work - which is not most people), life is about friends, family, hobbies, bettering yourself, relaxing, learning...on your time off. Work (unless self employed - which I am, btw) is about producing the cash so I can do the other things...nothing more.

    But each to his/her own.

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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    If an employer wanted to get rid of an employee, they would tell the employee not to come to work the next day. So is it fair that the standard notice an employee is expected to give is two weeks?
    No, it's not. If a company wants at-will employment, then it goes both ways. Neither the company nor the employee is required to give notice before severing their relationship. If a company wants to require its employees to give a certain amount of notice before quitting, then they should have to give the same amount of notice to someone being fired or laid off.

    The two weeks also seems extremely arbitrary. I know for a fact that there is no way, barring exceptional luck, that my company could replace me in two weeks.

    Nevertheless, I'd give two weeks notice if it was at all possible, simply to avoid burning bridges. If I had a great job offer somewhere else and they needed me to start sooner though, I'd leave sooner.
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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

    Here, it's generally a contractual obligation, you have to give two weeks notice before you leave, and an employer has to give two weeks notice before firing you.
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    Re: Should an employee have to give a two weeks notice before leaving?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I appreciate that sentiment, but that was never my experience. I'm retired now but when working, I was never fired and when leaving a job, I always gave my employer notice I was leaving. My last place of employment lasted 30 plus years and attitude towards your employer, in my view, has a lot to do with whether or not you enjoy working and whether or not your employer feels any sense of loyalty to you and a desire to promote and retain you. Employers, and I was one, can tell pretty quickly from an employee's attitude whether or not they will invest any time and money in retaining an employee.

    Depends, I suppose, on what you want out of work.
    I worked for a Fortune 500 company that employed thousands worldwide; I loved my job and I was loyal to them. Bad-mouthing the company you work for is bound to get back to them, and putting it on a personal level, it hurts you more than it does them, because you can be replaced. Everyone has their bad days, but loyalty is a two-way street, and I found that attitude is just as important as job skills to an employer. My company treated me very well over the years, in both promotions, salary increases, and foreign language classes which they asked me to take, on my own time, and which they paid for, since it made me more valuable to them. In return I never worried about taking a day off when my children were in school plays or competing in sports events that I wanted to see, so it was fair. BTW, I gave them a months' notice when I left, which they appreciated, although they tried to talk me out of retiring early, which was a nice ego boost!

    Greetings, CJ.

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