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    Re: Which was more Christian nation - USA or USSR?

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    I'm to young for the USSR, but it think it all depends on your definition of christian. Celebrating christmas is also something many atheists and agnostics do, but it does not mean they are christian if they still deny christ.
    I agree with your comments as far as celebrating christmas isn't exclusive to those who profess to be christian. The reasons for that are probably many, especially where atheist and agnostics are concerned, but I opine that christmas and christianity are now mutually exclusive, for the most part, despite the origin of christmas.

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    Re: Which was more Christian nation - USA or USSR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    I agree with your comments as far as celebrating christmas isn't exclusive to those who profess to be christian. The reasons for that are probably many, especially where atheist and agnostics are concerned, but I opine that christmas and christianity are now mutually exclusive, for the most part, despite the origin of christmas.
    It is possible to see it that way. where many celebrate the season of giving and participate in Christmas shopping and decorating the Christmas tree, Christians (or at least they are supposed to) must realize that Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Christ, thus so bringing a more spiritual aspect to the holiday. We are not simply engaging in the norm, but celebrating the entrance of the savior of the universe onto the earth, the first of many steps that would lead to his eventual Resurrection
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    Re: Which was more Christian nation - USA or USSR?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    The USA is not a christian Nation. It is a secular nation with a christian majority.
    Actually, if we're getting technical, is say it's a secular government, which governs the people of the United States, of which a large segment could be consider a American Christian Nation.

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    Re: Which was more Christian nation - USA or USSR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Actually, if we're getting technical, is say it's a secular government, which governs the people of the United States, of which a large segment could be consider a American Christian Nation.

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    American Christian Nation? LOL. Sounds like a racist, rightwing, neo-nazi terrorist organization.
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    Re: Which was more Christian nation - USA or USSR?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    American Christian Nation? LOL. Sounds like a racist, rightwing, neo-nazi terrorist organization.
    Or sounds like someone actually educated in Political Science and understands the term "nation" in it's casual use is a misnomer.

    A nation is not a governing body (That's a government) nor a territory (That's a country) and is not even inherently a community under a unified government (That's a state). Rather, a nation is a grouping of people sharing a common culture, language, history, religion, etc.

    It's reasonable and absolutely arguable to suggest that at the time of it's founding there was a sizable Christian Nation within the United States of America. IE, that there was a sizable enough population within the geographic area of the USA sharing a significantly common baseline language, culture, and history largely based around the shared religious view of Christianity. It’s around that time one could argue at least that the USA was a “Christian Nation” due to the overwhelming majority of the people sharing that common bond in a substantial fashion.

    As the years have progressed since the time of the founding the percentage of the population both identifying as Christian, and especially actively practicing as one in day to day lives, has decreased. This has made the argument of the USA concurrently being a “Christian Nation” far more difficult to support, but does nothing to the notion of a “Christian Nation” WITHIN the USA existing other than shrinking that particular nation.

    Now, due to our Government being Secular from the very onset, it would be difficult to argue that the USA was ever a Nation State, because our establishment as a “state” would not be directly coinciding with and empowered by the common traits of the nation. But there’s definitely an argument that there is a American Christian Nation, specific to the geographical region of our Country, that exists under the structure of the government of the United States of America.

    Why a group of people sharing a common culture (American), language (English), and religion (Christianity) sounds like a “racist, rightwing, neo-nazi terrorist organization” is a personal issue with your own stereotypes, prejudices, and bigotry. But I believe based on facts surrounding the political usage of the words, it’s definitely a reasonable argument to be made.

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    Re: Which was more Christian nation - USA or USSR?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    American Christian Nation? LOL. Sounds like a racist, rightwing, neo-nazi terrorist organization.
    Why?

    Couldn't it be a online bible study group or something?
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    Re: Which was more Christian nation - USA or USSR?

    Zero none of them are Christian nations. All are secular nations.


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