View Poll Results: What needs to change in US healthcare?

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  • Complete overhaul, replacing old system with European-style universal healthcare.

    27 58.70%
  • Partial overhaul, including expansion of Medicare, reworking of profit-based insurance system.

    9 19.57%
  • Sparse overhaul, based around getting rid of the profit-based private insurance companies.

    4 8.70%
  • Nothing needs to change, the US system is good the way it is.

    6 13.04%
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Thread: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I think his point was that highschool graduation standards today are equal to 10th grade education standards 50 years ago, and that 2 years of college today is equal to a highschool graduation 50 years ago.


    Edit: Granted, part of that might be to the increasing levels of technical knowledge necessary for even entry-level jobs, but at the same time, many children these days grow up immersed in technology to a far greater extent than they did 50 years ago, and thus....absorb...some technical skills even without formal training.
    My point is that his concern that more inclusive education may reduce the quality of education may be somewhat valid, but the advantages of more people getting a high school diploma outweigh the negative impact on quality.

    Similarly, we may suffer some negative consequences from providing affordable health care to everyone, but the benefits of a healthier public will outweigh the downsides. That is the experience in the countries that have tried it.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    As I understand it, highschool used to be all the education many people got - in the last few decades or so, however, it became more the norm to attend some form of higher education...I'm not sure if there is any connection, but it seems like there could be.
    I think you are onto something there. Back in my day only a few out of any graduation class would go on to college. I didn't, but I was drafted into the army in 1966. Even without the draft, I would probably have stayed on my dad's farm and worked it. I don't know the figures or percentage that went on to college back in the early 60's, but it was sure nothing compared to what we see today.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think you are onto something there. Back in my day only a few out of any graduation class would go on to college. I didn't, but I was drafted into the army in 1966. Even without the draft, I would probably have stayed on my dad's farm and worked it. I don't know the figures or percentage that went on to college back in the early 60's, but it was sure nothing compared to what we see today.
    This may sound conspiracy-theoryish (is that a word...meh)...

    But I halfway wonder if, a few decades back, colleges started lobbying for reduced educational standards in highschools in order to increase their own revenue...since, effectively, a year or two of college is taken up by teaching stuff that formerly was part of highschool
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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    This may sound conspiracy-theoryish (is that a word...meh)...

    But I halfway wonder if, a few decades back, colleges started lobbying for reduced educational standards in highschools in order to increase their own revenue...since, effectively, a year or two of college is taken up by teaching stuff that formerly was part of highschool
    I am not a conspiracy buff, but again I think you may be onto something. It was a few decades back that the federal student loan program kicked in. There were none in my day.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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