View Poll Results: What needs to change in US healthcare?

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  • Complete overhaul, replacing old system with European-style universal healthcare.

    27 58.70%
  • Partial overhaul, including expansion of Medicare, reworking of profit-based insurance system.

    9 19.57%
  • Sparse overhaul, based around getting rid of the profit-based private insurance companies.

    4 8.70%
  • Nothing needs to change, the US system is good the way it is.

    6 13.04%
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Thread: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    that is a classic chicken **** statement, someone has to pay, why shoudl it always be the ones willing to work? Conservatives contribute more to charity than liberals, why, because liberals are selfish and petty
    It's almost as though you have no sense of patriotism or morality -- it is stunning. How can you be so hateful towards your own brethren? I just don't understand such vitriolic resistance to what could only benefit your nation.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    The brethren are fellow right wingers, the rest of us are "them" people. The right wing isn't very American anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    It's almost as though you have no sense of patriotism or morality -- it is stunning. How can you be so hateful towards your own brethren? I just don't understand such vitriolic resistance to what could only benefit your nation.
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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    It's almost as though you have no sense of patriotism or morality -- it is stunning. How can you be so hateful towards your own brethren? I just don't understand such vitriolic resistance to what could only benefit your nation.
    I do not believe in socialism. I feel no pity for people that make bad choices and then whine after their realities change later in life. Choices make people what they are most of the time. Working class should not bear that result

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    36 countries have better health care than the U.S. I have to wonder about that. I am always reading about people from all over the world coming to the U.S. to get the best health care the world has. Now all of a sudden, we are number 37 over night. Something with the title here does not equate with me. I have been perfectly satisfied and happy with the healthcare I and my family have received over my long life. So the U.S. ranking 37th in the world in health care just doesn’t make sense.

    A thought crossed my mind. I now wonder if the ranking was based on quantity instead of quality. That those of us in the U.S. receive the best health care good insurance and money can buy. But those at the bottom of the spectrum, with no insurance and little money get or receive very poor health care. So perhaps the title is dealing with quantity and health care availability to one and all and not the quality of health care this nation can provide.

    In other words, the U.S. has the highest quality of healthcare available in the world, but not all can partake of that quality. So it seems the goal of the ACA, to me anyway, is to downgrade the quality of healthcare that is provided to most Americans who had insurance prior to the passage of the ACA in order to give healthcare to everyone. Sort of dumbing down our healthcare system like our public school system has been dumbed down. Our public school system now teaches or brings down the education to the lowest or poorest student. Is our healthcare system going the same way. Bringing down the quality of it so everyone can partake of it? It seems that way.

    Perhaps if the quality of healthcare drops for the 80% while giving healthcare to the remaining 20% our standing will in the world soar from number 37 upwards while in reality the quality will have dropped immensely and we are no longer able to proved the highest quality of health care in the world.

    Just some thoughts.
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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I do not believe in socialism. I feel no pity for people that make bad choices and then whine after their realities change later in life. Choices make people what they are most of the time. Working class should not bear that result
    You can not be serious. What you're saying is that you feel no pity for your dying countrymen due to your political slant.

    That is absolutely abhorrent.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    You can not be serious. What you're saying is that you feel no pity for your dying countrymen due to your political slant.

    That is absolutely abhorrent.
    You mean character, has nothing to do with slant. Socialism fails, it has been proven over and over. You can't rob the makers to take care of the takers, it is a ridiculous notion.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Is it okay with you enough to not lock them in a cage for not wanting to fund it?
    People without insurance use tax payer funded community clinics and hospital emergency rooms for their health care, so they should pay a fee or tax to cover the cost if they earn enough to afford coverage.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    You pay for it anyway, in the least efficient why possible. I love the conservatives give more to charity thing, I hang out on very conservative forums too, about every few months one of them start a thread bragging about how much charity they give. Guilt maybe?
    Their alleged extra 'charity' spending actually goes to their churches to pay for their weekly entertainment and a ticket to heaven.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    You can not be serious. What you're saying is that you feel no pity for your dying countrymen due to your political slant.

    That is absolutely abhorrent.
    That's not it at all and a horrible characterization. Look, people as a group decide what balance they'll accept between capitalism and socialism and they move towards that goal. Pros and cons exist for each balance point. Feeling pity for people achieves absolutely nothing, it's a self-serving emotion and it's the actions taken that count in the real world. Pointing out that people dig themselves into their own holes doesn't imply that we shouldn't give them at least a hand up out of said hole. It's a truism - people chose and sometimes, perhaps for some often, make terrible choices that make their lives unmanageable later on.

    For us it's freedom to be able to chose the course of one's life, for good or ill. For you folks it's not, you'd rather be taken care of no matter what bad choices you make. That's fine too and much to be said for the nanny form of governing. Doesn't mean it works for us.
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