View Poll Results: What needs to change in US healthcare?

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  • Complete overhaul, replacing old system with European-style universal healthcare.

    27 58.70%
  • Partial overhaul, including expansion of Medicare, reworking of profit-based insurance system.

    9 19.57%
  • Sparse overhaul, based around getting rid of the profit-based private insurance companies.

    4 8.70%
  • Nothing needs to change, the US system is good the way it is.

    6 13.04%
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Thread: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Universal healthcare is the goal, but through profit making insurance companies who provide good healthcare for an acceptable price, replacing in part medicare and medicaid by using that money to provide assistance to those who make too little money (like the elderly and poor) to pay the healthcare insurance and providing some relief for the middle class by making the healthcare payments a tax deduction for them. People making over 200,000 will not be allowed to use it as a tax deduction.

    For the rest things should remain largely the same but with oversight to make sure that the costs of healthcare do not spiral out of control. Insurance companies should also make sure that doctors do not spend the insurance carriers money by using very expensive medication where a lot cheaper but equally effective alternatives are available. Only if it is medically necessary should more expensive brand medications be used over generic medications (in case of medical need or allergic issues to the generic medication).
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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    So you just randomly dislike insurance that was consensually bought?
    If some people want commerical insurance, that is OK with me. But I want the choice to participate in a health system that is not profit oriented, esp in the area of insurance. (I am aware that many insurance companies are nominally non-profit, but that is not the reality of the situation.] Unless it is an HMO, the insurance company's interests are contrary to their customers interests.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    If some people want commerical insurance, that is OK with me. But I want the choice to participate in a health system that is not profit oriented, esp in the area of insurance. (I am aware that many insurance companies are nominally non-profit, but that is not the reality of the situation.] Unless it is an HMO, the insurance company's interests are contrary to their customers interests.
    Is it okay with you enough to not lock them in a cage for not wanting to fund it?

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    It's the profit.
    Too many lawyers, too much litigation makes too expensive insurance. Being misdiagnosed or having a crooked scar is like winning the lottery. Half of society is having to play defense against lawyers and lawsuits and the cost is passed on to you-know-who.
    That, and the bloated profits. Don't get me started about bloated profits...
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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    bloated profits
    Bloated proof of actual demand?

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    It's no secret that the US healthcare system is a disaster, and of all developed nations, the US has some of the worst healthcare and overall health.

    This Business Insider article mentions the 36 countries that have better healthcare than the US, from France in #1 to Costa Rica in #36.

    My poll today is: What needs to change to bring the US closer to other developed nations in terms of healthcare quality, service and costs?

    The 36 Best Healthcare Systems In The World - Business Insider
    really, the only time you see wealthy americans going somewhere else for treatment is those who have essentially end stage cancer and think some stuff not legal in the USA will work for their disease (remember the Laetrile fad 30 years ago for cancer or radon gas enemas for AIDS 25 years ago?)

    for people who are industrious enough to have good insurance, this is the best healthcare going



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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    A complete overhaul and conversion to a universal healthcare system would prevent this from happening. Why do some Americans hate the idea of an 'NHS' for the US so much?
    uh because many of those don't want to be told we have to wait in line ahead of people whose health care our dollars are paying for.



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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Bloated proof of actual demand?
    What?
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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    really, the only time you see wealthy americans going somewhere else for treatment is those who have essentially end stage cancer and think some stuff not legal in the USA will work for their disease (remember the Laetrile fad 30 years ago for cancer or radon gas enemas for AIDS 25 years ago?)

    for people who are industrious enough to have good insurance, this is the best healthcare going
    Hm. Wealthy, middle-class, whatever, there's agencies arranging travel to India and Mexico and others for dental surgery, hip replacements, arterial transplants, whatever.
    With Canadians, it's a matter of getting the procedure immediately rather than waiting- with Americans it's cost.
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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    at the time, I asked my doctor and he said it would have been done next week here. People in Canada are stuck when something is bad and they need it fast which is how it will be here now that we have this awful legislation. Everyone loses with this law.
    Wait times for treatments are ordered by need if she really did need that surgery to live she would have pushed to the front of the line or they would pay to have the treatment in another province or elsewhere. I assume she died of other causes as you knwo people do die of things we cannot help.

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