View Poll Results: What needs to change in US healthcare?

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  • Complete overhaul, replacing old system with European-style universal healthcare.

    27 58.70%
  • Partial overhaul, including expansion of Medicare, reworking of profit-based insurance system.

    9 19.57%
  • Sparse overhaul, based around getting rid of the profit-based private insurance companies.

    4 8.70%
  • Nothing needs to change, the US system is good the way it is.

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Thread: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    We don't make everyone pay 50% tax. That's simply factually inaccurate. We have a progressive tax scale, like you do.
    he makes 10k more than I do and I take home 20%+ more money that he does. Free healthcare is nothing but a liberal lie

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    bullcrap, one lives in Montreal, he makes 10k more that I do, and I still live better and have money left to invest. Of course now we have ACA which weakens coverage and cost more so I may be in the same boat as him now
    He makes a fair amount of money then unless he makes exactly 10k. Do you numbers I could use? Even then healthcare only accounts for a small potion of the tax money and Quebec has an additional healthcare fee as well of about 50$ for the average household.
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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    He makes a fair amount of money then unless he makes exactly 10k. Do you numbers I could use?
    he makes around 150k, so he takes home less that 75k a year unless he is participating in 401k, life insurance, disability, etc, so probably way less.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    he makes around 150k, so he takes home less that 75k a year unless he is participating in 401k, life insurance, disability, etc, so probably way less.
    So if he makes 150,000$/year he pays a marginal rate of 49.97% but the average rate is only 37.20% and his after tax income should be around 94,193$/year. If he struggling to feed his children he is rather bad with his money but for his taxes he gets some of the best education in the world (Quebec rivals Asia) for his children (if he has any), some of the best healthcare in Canada, and QPP which actually works unlike American social security among numerous other social benefits Quebec and Canada enjoys.
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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    So if he makes 150,000$/year he pays a marginal rate of 49.97% but the average rate is only 37.20% and his after tax income should be around 94,193$/year. If he struggling to feed his children he is rather bad with his money but for his taxes he gets some of the best education in thew world for his children (if he has any), some of the best healthcare in Canada, and QPP which actually works unlike American social security among numerous other social benefits Quebec enjoys.
    I have seen his check it is over 50%, not sure what other taxes you have there but it is ridiciulous. Even using your math 49.97 does not equal 94k, I can tell this was a waste of time. The only social benefit in Montreal is gentlemen clubs if you are into that, other than that it is nothing more than 2-3 days before I am ready to come home.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I have seen his check it is over 50%, not sure what other taxes you have there but it is ridiciulous. Even using your math 49.97 does not equal 94k, I can tell this was a waste of time. The only social benefit in Montreal is gentlemen clubs if you are into that, other than that it is nothing more than 2-3 days before I am ready to come home.
    Then I suggest he gets a better accountant, the 94k is based off the average tax rate of 37.2%. Those taxes are combined Quebec and federal taxes so those taxes pay for a lot, as I said some of the best education in the world, some of the best healthcare in the wrold, the CBC, and many other world class services.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Then I suggest he gets a better accountant, the 94k is based off the average tax rate of 37.2%. Those taxes are combined Quebec and federal taxes so those taxes pay for a lot, as I said some of the best education in the world, some of the best healthcare in the wrold, the CBC, and many other world class services.
    best healthcare? is that why he lost his mother last year waiting on an operation for 3 months she could have had the first week here? or some other distant relative simple procedure? It is actually propaganda and a brainwashed population that thinks it is the best.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    What kind of operation? Did she have comorbitities that delayed the surgery? How do you know she could have it in a week here?
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    best healthcare? is that why he lost his mother last year waiting on an operation for 3 months she could have had the first week here? or some other distant relative simple procedure? It is actually propaganda and a brainwashed population that thinks it is the best.
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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    What kind of operation? Did she have comorbitities that delayed the surgery? How do you know she could have it in a week here?
    at the time, I asked my doctor and he said it would have been done next week here. People in Canada are stuck when something is bad and they need it fast which is how it will be here now that we have this awful legislation. Everyone loses with this law.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    What was the surgery? Did she have pneumonia? Do you really think if Canadians are dying because they cant get needed surgery? Why arent they trying to get a system like ours? Oh the outrage...
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    at the time, I asked my doctor and he said it would have been done next week here. People in Canada are stuck when something is bad and they need it fast which is how it will be here now that we have this awful legislation. Everyone loses with this law.
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