View Poll Results: What needs to change in US healthcare?

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  • Complete overhaul, replacing old system with European-style universal healthcare.

    27 58.70%
  • Partial overhaul, including expansion of Medicare, reworking of profit-based insurance system.

    9 19.57%
  • Sparse overhaul, based around getting rid of the profit-based private insurance companies.

    4 8.70%
  • Nothing needs to change, the US system is good the way it is.

    6 13.04%
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Thread: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I prefer a system that does not include a role for insurance companies at all.
    So you just randomly dislike insurance that was consensually bought?

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nope, the general stereotype is that your systems are restrictive and your societies blase and your people sort of grey and tired. Nannies and serfs.
    Ah, is that the general stereotype, or your vitriolic one?

    Because I can play that game too: You Americans, in general, are fat, uneducated, ugly losers who fail at being a world power, and you should let the big boys handle it.

    Ah, the blame game.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Bull****, Europeans are treated like cattle. My company has plants there too and the government has their hands in everything. No thank you.
    And some of us have lived in US. Here, you go into hospital for an op and come out when you're ready. In US, I watched small children brought in for ops on the day of the op and carried out the same day plainly in an unfit state...because people can't afford to pay. A friend who broke his arm, has medical insurance but the excess is 10000gbp. He's just a normal guy...who can afford that?
    Such people go a travelling when they're young, but they all come back when they need care.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    So you just randomly dislike insurance that was consensually bought?
    Are you aware of taxes consensually paid?

    It's six and half a dozen how you pay, but isn't it important that everyone can access health care when they need it and regardless of level of income?

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Ah, is that the general stereotype, or your vitriolic one?

    Because I can play that game too: You Americans, in general, are fat, uneducated, ugly losers who fail at being a world power, and you should let the big boys handle it.

    Ah, the blame game.
    Unwad the undergear, YOU asked, I answered your question. And yes, it's the general stereotype of europeons. Add in that they are very annoying. Not saying it's true any more than your stereotypes.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    And some of us have lived in US. Here, you go into hospital for an op and come out when you're ready. In US, I watched small children brought in for ops on the day of the op and carried out the same day plainly in an unfit state...because people can't afford to pay. A friend who broke his arm, has medical insurance but the excess is 10000gbp. He's just a normal guy...who can afford that?
    Such people go a travelling when they're young, but they all come back when they need care.
    And I have fellow employees in Canada and England who can barely feed their families because of the ridiculous taxes and laws they must obey. again no thank you.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viv View Post
    And some of us have lived in US. Here, you go into hospital for an op and come out when you're ready. In US, I watched small children brought in for ops on the day of the op and carried out the same day plainly in an unfit state...because people can't afford to pay. A friend who broke his arm, has medical insurance but the excess is 10000gbp. He's just a normal guy...who can afford that?
    Such people go a travelling when they're young, but they all come back when they need care.
    That's nice, and I'm glad you like your system. We liked ours too, before Obama and the congress critters got ahold of it. Yes, just as you have complaints about some of the particulars of yours, we had some complaints about the particulars of ours. But overall...well, you get the drift.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    And I have fellow employees in Canada and England who can barely feed their families because of the ridiculous taxes and laws they must obey. again no thank you.
    No, you don't. You know full well that our progressive tax system actually taxes the poor less than most US states. So, you're talking utter garbage.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    And I have fellow employees in Canada and England who can barely feed their families because of the ridiculous taxes and laws they must obey. again no thank you.
    I can't speak for Canada and there are some differences in situation between England and Scotland due to Scottish devolved Government running rings around the UK Government, but the current economic situation and levels of taxation are not really dictated by funding the National Health Service.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    No, you don't. You know full well that our progressive tax system actually taxes the poor less than most US states. So, you're talking utter garbage.
    the garbage is you think everyone should pay 50+% in federal taxes so some crackhead can have free healthcare

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