View Poll Results: What needs to change in US healthcare?

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  • Complete overhaul, replacing old system with European-style universal healthcare.

    27 58.70%
  • Partial overhaul, including expansion of Medicare, reworking of profit-based insurance system.

    9 19.57%
  • Sparse overhaul, based around getting rid of the profit-based private insurance companies.

    4 8.70%
  • Nothing needs to change, the US system is good the way it is.

    6 13.04%
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Thread: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    The first thing would be to have every state define all health related things the same. This is currently not done.
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    I thought I had it right.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Ja View Post
    I thought I had it right.
    You didn't.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    The first thing would be to have every state define all health related things the same. This is currently not done.
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    You didn't.
    I clearly did by the definition. Taking from public control to private. I can also say in support of private healthcare and insurance. Means the same thing basically. One is taking from the government and making it private, one is just private, meaning the govt didn't have control in the first place. Either way I support both in healthcare and insurance.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Ja View Post
    I clearly did by the definition. Taking from public control to private. I can also say in support of private healthcare and insurance. Means the same thing basically. One is taking from the government and making it private, one is just private, meaning the govt didn't have control in the first place. Either way I support both in healthcare and insurance.
    Yes, like taking tax money that paid for state guards in prisons and turning the prison over to a private company and still paying the guard with taxation (like I said).

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Yes, like taking tax money that paid for state guards in prisons and turning the prison over to a private company and still paying the guard with taxation (like I said).
    No that's not what the complete definition says. Its taking something that was public and making it private. Can mean outsourcing, that can lead to tax funds being used. It can be what you said yes, but that's not what I support.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by loader View Post
    The real reason that Obama decided to change the medical system in the country, this redistribution of the money flow in favor of the state institutions. If Obama really wanted to make changes for the better, the first thing he would have done it increased aid for medical students. Сountry needs a large increase number of doctors and nurses. Country needs a large increase number hospitals and universal care clinics. And only after that, create a database for full coverage of the population.
    How about buying insurance across state lines?
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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Ja View Post
    No that's not what the complete definition says. Its taking something that was public and making it private. Can mean outsourcing, that can lead to tax funds being used. It can be what you said yes, but that's not what I support.
    Publicly paid for to a private company.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How about buying insurance across state lines?
    I do not understand what prevents this. But our friends Republicans in Congress, is not very enthusiastic on this idea.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How about buying insurance across state lines?
    Can't do that. Health insurers and their salesmen across the country would lose their semi-protected status. That could result in competition for business and commissions.

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    Re: There are 36 countries with better healthcare than the USA. What needs to happen?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Can't do that. Health insurers and their salesmen across the country would lose their semi-protected status. That could result in competition for business and commissions.
    Oh noes!!!!
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