View Poll Results: Should we build Keysone oil pipeline?

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  • yes - infrastructure is a wise investment

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  • yes: but only because the oil trains are so dangerous

    2 7.14%
  • no: rely on the oil trains, Keystone has it's own problem

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    Should ew build Keystone pipeline to replace crude oil trians?

    CASSELTON, N.D. Many residents evacuated a southeastern North Dakota town overnight after a train carrying crude oil derailed and exploded, and officials warned that acrid smoke could blow into the area.

    BNSF said both trains had more than 100 cars each.

    The incident will likely prompt discussion about the safety of transporting oil by cross-country rail. Fears of catastrophic derailments were particularly stoked after a train carrying crude from North Dakota's Bakken oil patch crashed in Quebec last summer. Forty-seven people died in the ensuing fire.
    Officials warn of toxic smoke near ND derailment - US news | NBC News
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    Re: Should ew build Keystone pipeline to replace crude oil trians?

    beats me,,, saw the news item, thought it "poll worthy" (obviously not SPELL worthy)...
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    Re: Should ew build Keystone pipeline to replace crude oil trians?

    I have always thought pipelines were environmentally safer than tankers, trucks or trains and is the only reason I am for the construction of the pipeline. All the other reasons the right gives about jobs and cheaper oil are BS.
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    Re: Should ew build Keystone pipeline to replace crude oil trians?

    The sooner we switch to 100% Renewable Energy, the better. Kick the old oily drug habit. It's just a big monopoly anyway. Not patriotic, not beneficial, not healthy, not good for the planet.

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    Re: Should ew build Keystone pipeline to replace crude oil trians?

    yea, why should we care if it ****s up major aquifer systems
    its not like we, and our kids and grandkids, need clean water
    the koch brothers need more money ... which is what this will accomplish
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    Re: Should ew build Keystone pipeline to replace crude oil trians?

    The equivalent of hundreds of thousands of barrels of oil a day will soon be moving from western Canada into the U.S.—even if the controversial Keystone XL Pipeline is never built.

    The energy industry is moving full steam ahead to move crude on rail cars—a fast growing business, booming along with increased North American oil production and already responsible for moving most of the oil out of the Bakken region in North Dakota

    The stretch of Keystone pipeline, which is opposed by environmentalists, would send oil from Alberta, through Montana, across South Dakota and Nebraska, to the Cushing extension in Kansas and then south into the southern leg of the Keystone and on to the Gulf Coast refining area
    Canadian oil rides south even without Keystone pipeline

    I dunno, but even if ND isn't tapped in Canadian oil will increase by train
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    Re: Should ew build Keystone pipeline to replace crude oil trians?

    The Keystone Pipeline System is a pipeline system to transport synthetic crude oil from the oil sands of Alberta, Canada, and crude oil from the northern United States, "primarily to refineries in the Gulf Coast" of Texas.[notes 1]

    [2] The products to be shipped include synthetic crude oil (syncrude) and diluted bitumen (dilbit) from the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin in Alberta, Canada, and Bakken synthetic crude oil and light crude oil produced from the Williston Basin (Bakken) region in Montana and North Dakota
    Keystone Pipeline - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    so the oil IS coming, and it is coming not from just Canada....Pipelines have there own set of problems, but rail isn't so safe as we just saw.
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    Re: Should ew build Keystone pipeline to replace crude oil trians?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I have always thought pipelines were environmentally safer than tankers, trucks or trains and is the only reason I am for the construction of the pipeline. All the other reasons the right gives about jobs and cheaper oil are BS.
    Pipeline construction doesn't create jobs?
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    Re: Should ew build Keystone pipeline to replace crude oil trians?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    yea, why should we care if it ****s up major aquifer systems
    its not like we, and our kids and grandkids, need clean water
    the koch brothers need more money ... which is what this will accomplish
    **** up what aquifers? Is this fear monhering, or do you have credible evidence to support your claim?
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    Re: Should ew build Keystone pipeline to replace crude oil trians?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The sooner we switch to 100% Renewable Energy, the better. Kick the old oily drug habit. It's just a big monopoly anyway. Not patriotic, not beneficial, not healthy, not good for the planet.
    What are we waiting on, then? Oh, wait, green energy doesn't work on a large scale the way that fossil fuels do.
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