View Poll Results: Do you reject evolution?

Voters
127. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    7 5.51%
  • No

    120 94.49%
Page 3 of 25 FirstFirst 1234513 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 243

Thread: Do you reject evolution?

  1. #21
    Pragmatist
    SouthernDemocrat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    KC
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:51 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,420

    Re: Do you reject evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    It depends on what one means when they say "evolution."

    To the degree one asserts we, as a species, do evolve, I absolutely agree; and as Steve said above, I think there is too much evidence to deny that.

    To the degree such evidence is taken to unprovable extremes, into the realm of speculation and to belief to assert somehow unequivocally that our genesis and subsequent evolution to what we are today is not the product of design, but rather one of pure chance is to take it too far imho. I believe there is too much evidence that we are the product of design. In that vein, I also believe that our evolution is necessarily something that occurs only within the limits of our design.

    Take the evidence that we do evolve outside the parameters of design, then I rest on my belief in design rather than on the contrary belief that our existence is purely by fiat and caprice.
    What is the chemical / physical barrier that prevents speciation? Hint: There is not one. You should read The Greatest Show On Earth. I think you will find that science know a lot more about evolution and speciation than you might think it does.

    The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution: Richard Dawkins: Amazon.com: Books
    "You're the only person that decides how far you'll go and what you're capable of." - Ben Saunders (Explorer and Endurance Athlete)

  2. #22
    dangerously addictive
    americanwoman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Somewhere over the rainbow
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 04:34 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    17,435

    Re: Do you reject evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dibbler View Post
    Absolutely reject the theory of evolution.

    There is no proof of it, nowhere has it been observed.

    Do you mean like physically watching a species change in front of them type of observation or the observation of a species over hundreds of years that certain parts mutated in order to survive?
    I call my own shots, largely based on an accumulation of data, and everyone knows it.
    _____________________________________________

  3. #23
    global liberation

    ecofarm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Miami
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    66,445

    Re: Do you reject evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Who says it is is random and not by some design? The idea of evolution is about change and adaptation.
    The foundation of evolution is random mutation. Without that, we have only "change happens". Merely believing that change has occurred does not constitute a belief or understanding of evolution.

  4. #24
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Last Seen
    08-29-17 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    16,575

    Re: Do you reject evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Well yes, if one believed that evolution was simply one of God's natural laws. However, guided evolution (theistic evolution) is technically not evolution.
    I didn't say God(s) design had to be guided necessarily. If I build an ant farm, I have designed the box, put the ants in, and the sand. However, what THEY create afterwords and what happens to them is not necessarily MY design.

  5. #25
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Last Seen
    08-29-17 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    16,575

    Re: Do you reject evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The foundation of evolution is random mutation. Without that, we have only "change happens". Merely believing that change has occurred does not constitute a belief or understanding of evolution.
    You'll have to show me where the foundation is 100% randomness. What I have read and seen evolution is about change and adaptation.

  6. #26
    Pragmatist
    SouthernDemocrat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    KC
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:51 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,420

    Re: Do you reject evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Who says it is is random and not by some design? The idea of evolution is about change and adaptation.
    Technically it all boils down to the lowly "selfish gene". Once you really start learning about evolution you realize that biology is easily the most fascinating branch of modern science. The scientific explanations for why we are here, are far more awe inspiring than anything any religion has ever came up with regarding creation.
    "You're the only person that decides how far you'll go and what you're capable of." - Ben Saunders (Explorer and Endurance Athlete)

  7. #27
    Mod Conspiracy Theorist
    rocket88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    A very blue state
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:25 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,187

    Re: Do you reject evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I didn't say God(s) design had to be guided necessarily. If I build an ant farm, I have designed the box, put the ants in, and the sand. However, what THEY create afterwords and what happens to them is not necessarily MY design.
    And if you were, in fact, divine (which I assume you are not), you could "know" what would happen after you designed the box and put the ants in.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

  8. #28
    global liberation

    ecofarm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Miami
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    66,445

    Re: Do you reject evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You'll have to show me where the foundation is 100% randomness. What I have read and seen evolution is about change and adaptation.
    You don't understand evolution. Great.

  9. #29
    Pragmatist
    SouthernDemocrat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    KC
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:51 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,420

    Re: Do you reject evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Do you mean like physically watching a species change in front of them type of observation or the observation of a species over hundreds of years that certain parts mutated in order to survive?
    We actually have observed speciation. Observed Instances of Speciation
    "You're the only person that decides how far you'll go and what you're capable of." - Ben Saunders (Explorer and Endurance Athlete)

  10. #30
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Last Seen
    08-29-17 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    16,575

    Re: Do you reject evolution?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    And if you were, in fact, divine (which I assume you are not), you could "know" what would happen after you designed the box and put the ants in.
    Possibly, but that is assuming a divine has ultimate knowledge or isn't flawed. One of the reasons I am agnostic is I can see a divine being different things and I don't subscribe to one specific ideology of a divine.

    For all I know there could be a God with divine powers that is retarded.

Page 3 of 25 FirstFirst 1234513 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •