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  • He's a political genius

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    Re: Ron Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    I think that liberalism is fundamentally opposed to the principles necessary to maintain a civilization, although Ron Paul does seem to be an ethical person, and I would prefer him to most Democrats.
    Did you by any chance mean libertarian-ism? I have met so few who call themselves any sort of CON having a curly hair bit of difference between liberalism and democrats.

    I have trouble coming up with anything Ron has done that had an affect on our national discourse or course. he seems to have been his generation's Cassandra.

    Rand just seems an opportunistic Hustler.

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    Re: Ron Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ron Paul is a guy with a few good ideas, and a whole lot more bad ones.
    Agreed.

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    Re: Ron Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    I wouldn't call him a "wing-nut", but I am turned off by his de facto constitution-worship.
    Fact is we'd be a helluva lot better off if we collectively followed the constitution more often than ignore it.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Ron Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Yeah but Ron Paul's interpration of the constitution differs from other politicans because he does not believe in implied powers or any modern application of the commerce clause.
    kinda like the 5 marijuana plants on the back porch of a california womans house that the federal government has authority over because she was influencing the national supply and demand even though through the state of california she was medically prescribed them? That interpretation of the commerce clause?
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    Re: Ron Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Yeah but Ron Paul's interpration of the constitution differs from other politicans because he does not believe in implied powers or any modern application of the commerce clause.
    Better to err on the side of caution when interpreting anything "implied"

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    Re: Ron Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    I wouldn't call him a "wing-nut", but I am turned off by his de facto constitution-worship.
    why is that? It is the governing body of the United States, all laws are supposed to be in accordance, what is the problem with "worshiping" it?
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    Re: Ron Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    To those that think he is a "wing-nut" how do you reckon? Everything he does is based on the Constitution, looking for some feedback! Thanks
    Most would claim what they do is 'based on the Constitution'. That is a lot like a woman's slight smile- very subject to interpretation....

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    Re: Ron Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    why is that? It is the governing body of the United States, all laws are supposed to be in accordance, what is the problem with "worshiping" it?
    Because it's not perfect. If it were, there wouldn't be a process by which to amend it.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Ron Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Most would claim what they do is 'based on the Constitution'. That is a lot like a woman's slight smile- very subject to interpretation....
    very true, but do they derive it from the elasticity of the constitution or the text?
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    Re: Ron Paul

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Because it's not perfect. If it were, there wouldn't be a process by which to amend it.
    then we amend it, not disregard it.
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