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    Re: Do you favor Congressional term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    With all the gerrymandering going on it probably doesn't matter for 90% of House Members whether the terms are 2 years, 4 years, 10 years or for life. As for campaign and campaign finance reform, the SCOTUS has declared money is speech so it would take a constitutional amendment and since all the incumbents receive millions and even tens of millions from those nameless, faceless moneyed people behind the scenes to run their campaigns, you'll never get 2/3rds of the house or senate to approve any type of amendment that is needed.
    You could get 2/3 of them to vote for that, and if not, you could build up enough support to vote them out if they don't support that. Don't underestimate using social media and grassroots effort.

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    Re: Do you favor Congressional term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    As it is pretty split i feel ok saying yes, but only to a certain point. People who are in their late 70's and 80's+ should not be in congress, but they should still be allowed to consult. The problem with term limits is that where many of the older politicians hold up what we may call old fashioned views, many people still like those views and that is why they are re-elected so many times. So by cutting a person off from their right to hold office, we not only cutting them off of their constitutional right, but we are forcing people to vote for people who don't always hold their views, just because they have had less terms; Because lets face it people, the politician who we put in office are not always the people who follow our beliefs, but are often the only ones running. So i think that yes their should be a term limit, but it has to be controlled so that people can still vote the way they want to.
    There are some important points you bring up here.

    Even former House Members & former Senators could still remain in advisory roles to consult current members. To make up for what would be a lack of decades of experience. But still keep the members of Congress NOT there so long that they become corrupted by the power more over time. Yet still be able to have those with experience use their experience to help.

    As for those in their 70's or 80's - not all of them are always bad to have. It could depend on their mental state though. But I do think that it's good to have at least some with age in there. Various individuals of various ages could be a voice for people of their own specific generation.

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    Re: Do you favor Congressional term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    We already have congressional term limits. The people are capable of voting them out. The 22nd Amendment of the constitution is completely stupid. Why can't we keep a president around if he is doing a good job? I see no reason to add a 28th amendment that says absolutely nothing. We have an election every two years for congress. Their term limit is 2 years. The same goes for the president. His term limit is 4 years. I do not support term limits as you define term limits. I do support the term limits that already exist.
    I am okay with repealing the 28th. I just think it should be fair all around. We should be able to keep a president if we want. But since we can't, I don't think we should be able to keep congressmen or SCOTUS judges either. The 28th should be repealed or expanded but I don't think it should be left as is.

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    Re: Do you favor Congressional term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tothian View Post
    You could get 2/3 of them to vote for that, and if not, you could build up enough support to vote them out if they don't support that. Don't underestimate using social media and grassroots effort.
    I really do not think so. One problem with all these polls that shows the people are always ready to kick out the entire current congress is most Americans like/love their own congressman, it is the other 434 that are bad/evil. IMO and I have been around a long time, every new campaign finance law passed has seem to make the system more and more corrupt and worked less and less as intended. If you remember back to the 1950's/60's there really was no limits on the amount of money given, but all money was given to the candidates and the political parties. You have no third parties or organizations such as super pacs, money bundlers, no independent political or advocacy ads. Everything was handled by the candidates and parties alone. The candidates and political parties had control, not some outside group or groups.

    That control is all in the past now, political parties/candidates can't control all the independent groups out there raising money and running their own ads either for or against. It does seem to me each new campaign finance law has made matters much worse than they were prior to the laws being passed. There is much less accountability now and much more secrecy as to who is running these ads and donating to all these outside groups. Call it the laws of unintended consequences.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Do you favor Congressional term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I really do not think so. One problem with all these polls that shows the people are always ready to kick out the entire current congress is most Americans like/love their own congressman, it is the other 434 that are bad/evil. IMO and I have been around a long time, every new campaign finance law passed has seem to make the system more and more corrupt and worked less and less as intended. If you remember back to the 1950's/60's there really was no limits on the amount of money given, but all money was given to the candidates and the political parties. You have no third parties or organizations such as super pacs, money bundlers, no independent political or advocacy ads. Everything was handled by the candidates and parties alone. The candidates and political parties had control, not some outside group or groups.

    That control is all in the past now, political parties/candidates can't control all the independent groups out there raising money and running their own ads either for or against. It does seem to me each new campaign finance law has made matters much worse than they were prior to the laws being passed. There is much less accountability now and much more secrecy as to who is running these ads and donating to all these outside groups. Call it the laws of unintended consequences.
    That is the biggest disconnect, IMO.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Do you favor Congressional term limits?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    That is the biggest disconnect, IMO.
    Yeah, exactly. Americans tend to always blame others for things they do not like or that are happening to them. They view their congressman as trying to correct everything, fighting for them against the evil other 434.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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