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Is my lack of respect for USA justified?

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People who will comment on this question without reading my post, are obviously trolls.
Here are my reasons why I have no respect for America as a nation:

- US president Obama promised dialog with Iran and Syria, but instead invited Saudi Arabian kings to the white house who sent death row inmates to fight Syrian people
- US president Bush promised no nation building but invaded Iraq, Afghanistan
- US senate congress has fights about funding Obamas care, but has no problems funding Israel which has universal health care, and funding whole bunch of other nations.
- I was wrongly arrested from my house in 2000 for robbery, spent 3 days in prison, and could not even sue the police district, another police district ended up handling my case. without money I am absolute nobody in this nation. same when my dogs got shot near my house this past December 4th.

There are many other reasons, but this gives some idea. I respect decent American people with all my heart, and unlike politicians who have access to the establishment media to keep kissing millions of asses and saying god bless America and god bless our men in uniform, I do not have such privilege, but to love a nation I have to love the system, a nation IS a system. If America does not even have a government that represents its' people, what kind of a nation is it? it certainly does not represent me.
 
You mean the American government, right? If you look over track records, you'd have justification to have no respect for a lot of countries. Long as you don't equate the government's actions with the American people as if they're one and the same, it's fair.
 
In America, the number of rights you have in practice depends on how much money you have. Always has really, but it's at sickening levels now.

As for the POTUS, he's just the face of a larger apparatus that we have no real control over. I view our Fed as a separate entity now which, in practice, operates independently from any oversight.

Sorry to hear about your dogs.
 
You mean the American government, right? If you look over track records, you'd have justification to have no respect for a lot of countries. Long as you don't equate the government's actions with the American people as if they're one and the same, it's fair.
I see what you are saying, but it gets tricky, because eventually, like it or not people (including possibly me) WILL be held accountable for it's government's actions

There are also hypocrites among us (maybe not me and not you) but example of such hypocrites is the ones on TV who fiercely speak out against establishment, and have careers from it, make millions from it like Alex Jones and Bill Oreilly, but they are a PART of the establishment.
 
In America, the number of rights you have in practice depends on how much money you have. Always has really, but it's at sickening levels now.

As for the POTUS, he's just the face of a larger apparatus that we have no real control over. I view our Fed as a separate entity now which, in practice, operates independently from any oversight.

Sorry to hear about your dogs.
Exactly.
 

Three threads of yours so far and three anti-America rants. Maximus Zeebra reborn... more pathetic bull****.

Run along.
 
Three threads of yours so far and three anti-America rants. Maximus Zeebra reborn... more pathetic bull****.

Run along.
And what is your position with American/Israel war mongering axis?
 
People who will comment on this question without reading my post, are obviously trolls.
Here are my reasons why I have no respect for America as a nation:

- US president Obama promised dialog with Iran and Syria, but instead invited Saudi Arabian kings to the white house who sent death row inmates to fight Syrian people
- US president Bush promised no nation building but invaded Iraq, Afghanistan
- US senate congress has fights about funding Obamas care, but has no problems funding Israel which has universal health care, and funding whole bunch of other nations.
- I was wrongly arrested from my house in 2000 for robbery, spent 3 days in prison, and could not even sue the police district, another police district ended up handling my case. without money I am absolute nobody in this nation. same when my dogs got shot near my house this past December 4th.

There are many other reasons, but this gives some idea. I respect decent American people with all my heart, and unlike politicians who have access to the establishment media to keep kissing millions of asses and saying god bless America and god bless our men in uniform, I do not have such privilege, but to love a nation I have to love the system, a nation IS a system. If America does not even have a government that represents its' people, what kind of a nation is it? it certainly does not represent me.
I think you respect the USA as an ideal, but do not respect the USA as it currently stands.

OR something like that.
 
People who will comment on this question without reading my post, are obviously trolls.
Here are my reasons why I have no respect for America as a nation:

- US president Obama promised dialog with Iran and Syria, but instead invited Saudi Arabian kings to the white house who sent death row inmates to fight Syrian people
- US president Bush promised no nation building but invaded Iraq, Afghanistan
- US senate congress has fights about funding Obamas care, but has no problems funding Israel which has universal health care, and funding whole bunch of other nations.
- I was wrongly arrested from my house in 2000 for robbery, spent 3 days in prison, and could not even sue the police district, another police district ended up handling my case. without money I am absolute nobody in this nation. same when my dogs got shot near my house this past December 4th.

There are many other reasons, but this gives some idea. I respect decent American people with all my heart, and unlike politicians who have access to the establishment media to keep kissing millions of asses and saying god bless America and god bless our men in uniform, I do not have such privilege, but to love a nation I have to love the system, a nation IS a system. If America does not even have a government that represents its' people, what kind of a nation is it? it certainly does not represent me.

It is hard to judge another person's emotions. But I see every one of your examples differently than you with the exception of your personal experience. There I do not have enough information.
 
Feel free to disrespect us. Hell...we all have flaws. Just make sure you bring your kneepads to smooch that Unca Sam booty when you line up to the trough because you need something.

Oh...and try not to piss us off.
 
People who will comment on this question without reading my post, are obviously trolls.
Here are my reasons why I have no respect for America as a nation:

- US president Obama promised dialog with Iran and Syria, but instead invited Saudi Arabian kings to the white house who sent death row inmates to fight Syrian people
- US president Bush promised no nation building but invaded Iraq, Afghanistan
- US senate congress has fights about funding Obamas care, but has no problems funding Israel which has universal health care, and funding whole bunch of other nations.
- I was wrongly arrested from my house in 2000 for robbery, spent 3 days in prison, and could not even sue the police district, another police district ended up handling my case. without money I am absolute nobody in this nation. same when my dogs got shot near my house this past December 4th.

There are many other reasons, but this gives some idea. I respect decent American people with all my heart, and unlike politicians who have access to the establishment media to keep kissing millions of asses and saying god bless America and god bless our men in uniform, I do not have such privilege, but to love a nation I have to love the system, a nation IS a system. If America does not even have a government that represents its' people, what kind of a nation is it? it certainly does not represent me.

If you're pissed off at addle brained politicians, they're not The USA and, join the club.
 
And what is your position with American/Israel war mongering axis?

Ha, a trick question! And your OP's first sentence is kind of a troll itself.

I hope you work out your angst and continue shopping around for countries in which you would be pleased to live.
 
And what is your position with American/Israel war mongering axis?

What is your position with Palestinian/Hamas/Hezbollah and Arab war mongering/terrorism/kidnapping and beheadings?
 
Ha, a trick question! And your OP's first sentence is kind of a troll itself.

I hope you work out your angst and continue shopping around for countries in which you would be pleased to live.

The whole thing is a Troll... or pure delusion
 
Although, I have not always agreed with our policies, I like the fact that we have a right to speak out. No country is perfect including our own. It's when we become apathetic and compliant we should worry.

Even one of our American Presidents said it's not only okay to give criticism but it's "unpatriotic and servile" and "morally treasonable to the American public" to announce there must be no criticism.

We are a democracy and that is our job, not to be blindly subordinate.
 
What is your position with Palestinian/Hamas/Hezbollah and Arab war mongering/terrorism/kidnapping and beheadings?
Ask your president:

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Although, I have not always agreed with our policies, I like the fact that we have a right to speak out. No country is perfect including our own. It's when we become apathetic and compliant we should worry.

Even one of our American Presidents said it's not only okay to give criticism but it's "unpatriotic and servile" and "morally treasonable to the American public" to announce there must be no criticism.

We are a democracy and that is our job, not to be blindly subordinate.
And so our establishment criticizes:

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Ask your president:
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So you are an intellectual coward to boot... got it.
 
I'm not sure I have an answer that I can vote in.

I don't agree with stuff Obama does - so that's why people should stay and campaign for better candidates to get elected.
 
People who will comment on this question without reading my post, are obviously trolls.
Here are my reasons why I have no respect for America as a nation:

- US president Obama promised dialog with Iran and Syria, but instead invited Saudi Arabian kings to the white house who sent death row inmates to fight Syrian people
- US president Bush promised no nation building but invaded Iraq, Afghanistan
- US senate congress has fights about funding Obamas care, but has no problems funding Israel which has universal health care, and funding whole bunch of other nations.
- I was wrongly arrested from my house in 2000 for robbery, spent 3 days in prison, and could not even sue the police district, another police district ended up handling my case. without money I am absolute nobody in this nation. same when my dogs got shot near my house this past December 4th.

There are many other reasons, but this gives some idea. I respect decent American people with all my heart, and unlike politicians who have access to the establishment media to keep kissing millions of asses and saying god bless America and god bless our men in uniform, I do not have such privilege, but to love a nation I have to love the system, a nation IS a system. If America does not even have a government that represents its' people, what kind of a nation is it? it certainly does not represent me.

Yet another baiting and trolling post from the OP.

If you don't like the US, then move somewhere else.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Here is a Youtube video for you:

 
I'm pretty sure in response to your unfortunate run-ins with the law, conservatives will tell you to "just make more money and move," not giving a damn about those who are left behind. But you think 3 days is bad? Innocent people are convicted all the time. Be damn grateful your life wasn't in the hands of a jury too inept to get out of jury duty.
 
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People who will comment on this question without reading my post, are obviously trolls.
Here are my reasons why I have no respect for America as a nation:

- US president Obama promised dialog with Iran and Syria, but instead invited Saudi Arabian kings to the white house who sent death row inmates to fight Syrian people
- US president Bush promised no nation building but invaded Iraq, Afghanistan
- US senate congress has fights about funding Obamas care, but has no problems funding Israel which has universal health care, and funding whole bunch of other nations.
- I was wrongly arrested from my house in 2000 for robbery, spent 3 days in prison, and could not even sue the police district, another police district ended up handling my case. without money I am absolute nobody in this nation. same when my dogs got shot near my house this past December 4th.

There are many other reasons, but this gives some idea. I respect decent American people with all my heart, and unlike politicians who have access to the establishment media to keep kissing millions of asses and saying god bless America and god bless our men in uniform, I do not have such privilege, but to love a nation I have to love the system, a nation IS a system. If America does not even have a government that represents its' people, what kind of a nation is it? it certainly does not represent me.

Sounds to me like it's time to join the Libertarian party my friend. We are the last line of defense. Do not expect liberty or freedom from the GOP or the Progressives. They will give you neither. GOP will give you freedom if you have $$. Progressives will give you freedom if you go along with the agenda. Personally, I'm done picking between the lesser of two evils. Join us on the dark side, we have cookies and freedom. I promise you, we are infinitely more fun as well.


The American system in it's true form is incredible. The GOP and Progressives have perverted and distorted it to the point that it's not recognizable anymore. This is not America. I assure you, stick around, we'll bring it back, but we need your help.
 
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