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    Re: Is my lack of respect for USA justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    I wonder what contempt-of-court charges garner in jail time these days....
    We might soon find out by the length of his absence!
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    Re: Is my lack of respect for USA justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by pvsi View Post
    People who will comment on this question without reading my post, are obviously trolls.
    Here are my reasons why I have no respect for America as a nation:

    - US president Obama promised dialog with Iran and Syria, but instead invited Saudi Arabian kings to the white house who sent death row inmates to fight Syrian people
    - US president Bush promised no nation building but invaded Iraq, Afghanistan
    - US senate congress has fights about funding Obamas care, but has no problems funding Israel which has universal health care, and funding whole bunch of other nations.
    - I was wrongly arrested from my house in 2000 for robbery, spent 3 days in prison, and could not even sue the police district, another police district ended up handling my case. without money I am absolute nobody in this nation. same when my dogs got shot near my house this past December 4th.

    There are many other reasons, but this gives some idea. I respect decent American people with all my heart, and unlike politicians who have access to the establishment media to keep kissing millions of asses and saying god bless America and god bless our men in uniform, I do not have such privilege, but to love a nation I have to love the system, a nation IS a system.
    If America does not even have a government that represents its' people, what kind of a nation is it? it certainly does not represent me.



    The government of the USA represents the American people who put it in power.

    Anyone who isn't happy in the USA should hit the road. Why stay where you're not happy?

    The entrance to the exit is wide open.

    Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you while you're on the way out.

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    Re: Is my lack of respect for USA justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by pvsi View Post
    And what is your position with American/Israel war mongering axis?



    What is your position on the Iranian/Palestinian terrorists war mongering axis?

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    Re: Is my lack of respect for USA justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    You mean the American government, right? If you look over track records, you'd have justification to have no respect for a lot of countries. Long as you don't equate the government's actions with the American people as if they're one and the same, it's fair.
    That's only true of the people who openly and vocally call their government OUT on their sins. Far too many Americans (PLENTY on this board) cling like a tic to the propaganda projected by our government, for them, what you present, is simply not true.

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    Re: Is my lack of respect for USA justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The government of the USA represents the American people who put it in power.

    Anyone who isn't happy in the USA should hit the road. Why stay where you're not happy?

    The entrance to the exit is wide open.

    Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you while you're on the way out.
    Shrub, dissent does not necessarily equate with unhappiness. But wanting things to be better/different shouldn't be presented with an invitation to leave. And I've seen you complain plenty on this board about the way various things are in America, and I wouldn't wish for you to leave. Not all certainly, but very little of what our country does, particularly concerning foreign policy, is representative of me!

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    Re: Is my lack of respect for USA justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That's only true of the people who openly and vocally call their government OUT on their sins. Far too many Americans (PLENTY on this board) cling like a tic to the propaganda projected by our government, for them, what you present, is simply not true.
    People here on DP are political. The Democrats will support anything, legal or illegal done by the Obama administration while they will oppose anything, legal or illegal done by the Bush administration and vice versa when it come to Republicans. These people will go back into history and defend anything and everything that any president from their did only because the D and the R.

    America as a whole I think has been very good for the world. But we have done some very nasty things as has every other country in the world. Governments are run by people, human beings and as a human they are as fallible as any other human. But what happens is we tend to look back on history through the context, the lenses of today's morals, values, customs, than those of the times what ever event or happening took place. I think in the end we would find America did what was right more times than they didn't which is not true for other countries or societies.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Is my lack of respect for USA justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Shrub, dissent does not necessarily equate with unhappiness.
    But wanting things to be better/different shouldn't be presented with an invitation to leave. And I've seen you complain plenty on this board about the way various things are in America, and I wouldn't wish for you to leave. Not all certainly, but very little of what our country does, particularly concerning foreign policy, is representative of me!



    I hear you, and I support everyone's free speech rights and their right to dissent.

    But anytime anyone posts over the line comments they shouldn't be surprised if some of the responses are close to, or over the line.

    That's the way that life works.

    If someone punches me in the nose and kicks me in the gonads I don't shake their hand.

    "What goes around, comes around."

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    Re: Is my lack of respect for USA justified?

    I agree!

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    Re: Is my lack of respect for USA justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    People here on DP are political. The Democrats will support anything, legal or illegal done by the Obama administration while they will oppose anything, legal or illegal done by the Bush administration and vice versa when it come to Republicans. These people will go back into history and defend anything and everything that any president from their did only because the D and the R.

    America as a whole I think has been very good for the world.
    But we have done some very nasty things as has every other country in the world. Governments are run by people, human beings and as a human they are as fallible as any other human. But what happens is we tend to look back on history through the context, the lenses of today's morals, values, customs, than those of the times what ever event or happening took place. I think in the end we would find America did what was right more times than they didn't which is not true for other countries or societies.



    I agree.

    The USA isn't perfect and it has made some mistakes, but overall the USA has made the world a better place and it has given up a lot of blood and money to do that.

    Anyone who only sees evil in what the USA is doing and has done is out of touch with reality.

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    Re: Is my lack of respect for USA justified?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    People here on DP are political. The Democrats will support anything, legal or illegal done by the Obama administration while they will oppose anything, legal or illegal done by the Bush administration and vice versa when it come to Republicans. These people will go back into history and defend anything and everything that any president from their did only because the D and the R.

    America as a whole I think has been very good for the world. But we have done some very nasty things as has every other country in the world. Governments are run by people, human beings and as a human they are as fallible as any other human. But what happens is we tend to look back on history through the context, the lenses of today's morals, values, customs, than those of the times what ever event or happening took place. I think in the end we would find America did what was right more times than they didn't which is not true for other countries or societies.
    Nah, I won't agree with that. Besides, measuring ones sins by another just isn't good enough. I want America to be what it claims to be.

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