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  • Napoleon Bonaparta

    6 13.95%
  • Genghis Khan

    11 25.58%
  • Julius Caesar

    5 11.63%
  • Salah ad-Din, Yusuf ibn Ayyub

    1 2.33%
  • Georgy Zhukov

    0 0%
  • Alexander the Great

    11 25.58%
  • Sir Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Wellington

    2 4.65%
  • Charles Martel

    0 0%
  • Sun Tzu

    6 13.95%
  • Akbar the Great

    1 2.33%
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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    ^yeah Pickett's charge was the act of a master strategist

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    He made the mistake of trying to invade the north rather than keep the North out

    major fail

    General Lee believed that the Lord was on the South's side, and that the South could not lose. He was a very religious man and loved the Lord with all his heart. I have read much about him and admire him very much. His reputation as a Commanding General, husband, father, and Christian gentleman remains intact, regardless of what some internet guy thinks 150 years later.

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by Mosby View Post
    General Lee believed that the Lord was on the South's side, and that the South could not lose. He was a very religious man and loved the Lord with all his heart. I have read much about him and admire him very much. His reputation as a Commanding General, husband, father, and Christian gentleman remains intact, regardless of what some internet guy thinks 150 years later.
    yeah but he lost

    if he would have merely fought a repelling campaign against the north, chances were the north would have come to terms with the south leaving. Invading the North caused massive increases in volunteers and the North's industrial might doomed the south from the beginning.



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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Judging by the sheer amount of land he was able to conquer, the diverse variety of different tactics he was able to master, and the fact that he was never actually defeated, I think the title has to go to the Great Khan here.

    I'm not sure how he would measure up in terms of sheer strategic skill and ability, however.

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah but he lost

    if he would have merely fought a repelling campaign against the north, chances were the north would have come to terms with the south leaving. Invading the North caused massive increases in volunteers and the North's industrial might doomed the south from the beginning.
    It would be easy for us to Monday morning quarterback 150 years later. But I will concede, looking back, that mistakes were made. I have an ancestor under General Garnett who was badly wounded in Pickett's Charge. His wounds hindered him through his 90's. But he LOVED General Lee regardless - the many reasons that we love General Lee outweigh any "mistakes". General Lee felt horribly about Gettysburg - it haunted him the rest of his life. However, the Confederate Soldier LOVED General Lee and forgave him and supported him throughout the war and throughout his life.

    This is an opinion poll on who the Greatest General in History is and my opinion has not and will not change. Allow me my opinion, sir, and I shall allow you yours.

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by Mosby View Post
    It would be easy for us to Monday morning quarterback 150 years later. But I will concede, looking back, that mistakes were made. I have an ancestor under General Garnett who was badly wounded in Pickett's Charge. His wounds hindered him through his 90's. But he LOVED General Lee regardless - the many reasons that we love General Lee outweigh any "mistakes". General Lee felt horribly about Gettysburg - it haunted him the rest of his life. However, he Confederate Soldier LOVED General Lee and forgave him and supported him throughout the war and throughout his life.

    This is an opinion poll on who the Greatest General in History is and my opinion has not and will not change. Allow me my opinion, sir, and I shall allow you yours.
    well one of my GGGgrandfathers commanded fort sumpter!

    oh well

    my favorite movie scene involving General Lee

    Gettysburg (Martin Sheen)

    General Lee to Pickett

    General Pickett, reform your regiments

    GP to GL

    Sir I have no regiments!!



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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Yes that is a good movie. "Sir, I have no regiments" Imagine how that haunted General Lee.

    I admire the makers of that movie for portraying the Confederate Soldier as human, defending his homelend, and not an "evil, racist, slaveowner". Good movie for sure.

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Poll is a fail because it doesn't at least mention Alfred the Great.

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    I know many of you will disagree but... I think these comparisons are usually impossible. War and the requisite aptitude for it is extremely contextual to the individuals, their circumstances, and the time periods they lived in. What it took to wage war in the era of Akbar and Genghis Khan is exceedingly different from that of Napoleon or even that of Zhukov. The enemies they fought, the resources they had at their disposal, the national circumstances they made war in all have an enormous impact on this. If you plucked Napoleon from the 19th Century and thrust him into the 12th would he have been as capable a commander? The average soldier was of dramatically different stock, the resources one could draw on were not only more limited but sourced differently, and for all the comparisons of warfare between time periods there remained a fundamentally different way of waging war (in large part because of the previous two conditions).

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah but he lost

    if he would have merely fought a repelling campaign against the north, chances were the north would have come to terms with the south leaving. Invading the North caused massive increases in volunteers and the North's industrial might doomed the south from the beginning.
    A defensive campaign without foreign intervention would never yield a Confederate victory and had already proved to have disastrous consequences by allowing the Union to set the terms of strategic engagement and reducing already strained Southern resources by subjecting them to plunder, destruction, and of course--occupation.

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