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  • Napoleon Bonaparta

    6 13.95%
  • Genghis Khan

    11 25.58%
  • Julius Caesar

    5 11.63%
  • Salah ad-Din, Yusuf ibn Ayyub

    1 2.33%
  • Georgy Zhukov

    0 0%
  • Alexander the Great

    11 25.58%
  • Sir Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Wellington

    2 4.65%
  • Charles Martel

    0 0%
  • Sun Tzu

    6 13.95%
  • Akbar the Great

    1 2.33%
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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Shaka Zulu. A brilliant strategist, he realized the shortcomings of Native warfare (mainly ineffective dispersed archery and throwing spears) and copied the Greek Phalanx and the Roman Legions. He had his soldiers discard the clumsy sandals that slowed running and made his warriors toughen their feet which lead to much more mobility. He adopted short stabbing spears (much like the Roman short sword) and shields and the enveloping movement of the greek phalanx. While initially outnumbered he destroyed all in his way (he was smart enough not to engage the white settlers-something his successors learned painfully at Blood River as the Boers engineered a brutal payback for the treacherous murder of their leader and his family Piet Retief.

    Pretorious's Boers suffered several wounded-the much larger Zulu forces lost thousands so Pretorios is also in the running for a top slot in history's ranking of Generals

    But Shaka managed much more. He displaced 25% of all sub saharan native populations with his conquest. Given what he had to work with, his brilliance is in rare company



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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Genghis Kahn, not only did he and his kids conquer a ****load, he started from the bottom, as a tribal outcast, and worked his way up.
    Pshaw. Ender Wiggen did that before he hit puberty. What else ya got?

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Pshaw. Ender Wiggen did that before he hit puberty. What else ya got?
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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Peter Wiggen conquered the world by the Internet. Beat that
    No he didn't. Gah. Read a book, willyah?

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No he didn't. Gah. Read a book, willyah?
    I read the entire series. The most regretted literary adventure aside from attempting to read Das Kapital
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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I chose Genghis Khan. Conquered a huge geographical area. Overcame topographical obstacles. It had to be tremendous leadership and a troop with high morale.
    Genghis khan, like William T. Sherman was a butcher and terrorist, not a general. His success was as much due to the terror he created by his methodologies and due to any real leadership. Real generals don't rely upon terror from the butcher of civilians and children, the outthink and out-perform other professional military generals.
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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I read the entire series
    then you oughta know better - he had Bean do his fighting

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Who was the greatest general in history? We have a list spanning the ages, from the dawn of history to the Second World War.

    Who is your choice, and why?

    Edit: To my eternal shame, I've made a typo in Napoleon Bonaparte's name. Is there any way to edit the poll?
    I'd have to go with Genghis Khan. If anyone wants to hear why, here's a link to Dan Carlin's Hardcore History archive. Listen to the "Wrath of the Khans" series - it's by turns enlightening...and chilling. His generalship encompassed not only battlefield genius, but infrastructure building and maintenance, highly effective intelligence systems, extensive success in getting his enemies to join him, one of the first truly merit-based advancement systems, and seriously draconian ways of maintaining unit discipline.

    On a side note, if we were to talk admirals, then I'd have to go with Admiral Horatio Nelson.
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    Re: The Greatest General in History

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    Re: The Greatest General in History

    Quote Originally Posted by Mosby View Post
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    He made the mistake of trying to invade the north rather than keep the North out

    major fail



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