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    Re: For-Profit Prisons: Eight Statistics That Show the Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    After going through the Court process 3 times I trust judges almost zero. There would have to be some massive regulation. A review board of all cases to find judicial misconduct... but then that is probably worse than the government system we already have.
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    Re: For-Profit Prisons: Eight Statistics That Show the Problems

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    Best judges money can buy!
    Funny thing.. I won all three times. Still don't trust those sumbitches...
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    Re: For-Profit Prisons: Eight Statistics That Show the Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    For-Profit Prisons: Eight Statistics That Show the Problems

    For-Profit Prisons: Eight Statistics That Show the Problems

    For-Profit Prisons: Eight Statistics That Show the Problems

    "As private prisons become the norm in the United States, it's time society takes a look at the institution and asks, "Are prisons really being used as rehabilitation/deterrence for crime, or have private interests started attaching price tags to lawbreakers’ heads and exploited their incarceration for profit?"
    Here are several key statistics that paint an ugly, troubling picture of the for-profit prison system in America:
    500% Increase
    The biggest private prison owner in America, The Corrections Corporation of America, has seen its profits increase by more than 500% in the past 20 years. Moreover, the business’ growth shows no sign of stopping, having already approached 48 states to take over government-run prisons.
    10-60 Pounds Lighter
    One way for-profit prisons to minimize costs is by skimping on provisions, including food. A psychiatrist who investigated a privately run prison in Mississippi found that the inmates were severely underfed and looked “almost emaciated.” During their incarceration, prisoners dropped anywhere from 10 to 60 pounds.
    100%
    100% of all military helmets, ID tags, bullet-proof vests and canteens are created in federal prison systems through prison labor. Though prisoners are “generously” compensated cents per hour, it’s clear having this inexpensive, exploited labor force is critical to the military industrial complex. I bet that the irony that mostly non-violent offenders are making war gear for others to perpetuate violence abroad without consequence is not lost on many of the inmates.
    90% Occupancy
    States sign agreements with private prisons to guarantee that they will fill a certain number of beds in jail at any given point. The most common rate is 90%, though some prisons are able to snag a 100% promise from their local governments. Because of these contracts, the state is obligated to keep prisons almost full at all times or pay for the beds anyway, so the incentive is to incarcerate more people and for longer in order to fill the quota.
    25%
    One in every four people that is incarcerated worldwide is held captive in a United States jail. How is it that a country with only 5% of the world’s population has 25% of all the inmates? Simple: prisoners are source of revenue for private companies, so the demand for incarcerating them is especially high.
    11 Times
    Violent crimes are down overall, so how does the United States keep prisons stocked instead? Amplifying the war on drugs: there are now 11 times as many people in jail for drug convictions than there were in 1980, constituting 50% of the prison population. Longer mandatory minimum sentences also keeps the inmates in longer. Most people incarcerated for drug charges are non-violent, have no prior record, and are addicts rather than major drug-traffickers.
    50%
    Nearly half of all detained immigrants are held in privately owned facilities. The fact that ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) has stepped up its game to detain more undocumented immigrants – about 400,000 each year – has actually increased the need for private systems as most detainees will linger in the system waiting for court dates for months if not years.
    Civil rights groups have deemed the quality of care provided in immigrant detention centers unacceptable, particularly because of the large numbers of preventable fatalities and sexual assaults.
    $45 million
    The three largest for-profit prison corporations have spent more than $45 million on campaign donations and lobbyists to keep politicians on the side of privatized incarceration. In light of all of their ethical violations, it’s obvious that they have to offer some incentive for keeping their business legal."

    25% of World's prison population in USA jails. WOW!
    50% of prison population drug users.
    Is there something wrong with this picture.
    It seems like a conflict of interest for law enforcement to guarantee occupancy.
    Why are there so many prisoners in US jails. Is it about profit.
    Drug and immigrant enforcement will be good for jail business.
    I have two primary pet issues... civil asset forfeiture and wrongful convictions. But, the issue of profit incentive anywhere in the justice system, especially in forms such as for-profit prisons, could very well be elevated and make it my Big Three. Doesn't hurt that this ties in with the other two.
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    Re: For-Profit Prisons: Eight Statistics That Show the Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    "The law" has a financial incentive to give those kids two years for a pack of gum due to for-profit prisons.
    And who makes the law? And tell me again are all prisons privately run and if not then the government run prisons have kids that got a two yrs for stealing a pack of gum. And you are OK with a kid getting two yrs if it's a government run prison.
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    Re: For-Profit Prisons: Eight Statistics That Show the Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So if it's not in the "Recommendations" section at the end, it doesn't exist? READ. THE. ****ING. REPORT.

    The idea that you're somehow denying that the private prison lobby would actually, yanno, lobby for policies in its favor when it's right there in the report is beyond me. It's like you're trying to be as intellectually dishonest as humanly possible.
    That is exactly right, I rest my case. I ask, if all that you say is in the report why was there "NO Recommendation" to correct anything.
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    Re: For-Profit Prisons: Eight Statistics That Show the Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    That is exactly right, I rest my case. I ask, if all that you say is in the report why was there "NO Recommendation" to correct anything.
    Because with the way the law works now, it's not correctable.

    If that's you "resting your case," you haven't made an argument, so I don't see anyone ruling in your favor. The report's there. The fact that you have chosen to utterly ignore all but the last three paragraphs is proof positive you have no interest in having a serious discussion.
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    Re: For-Profit Prisons: Eight Statistics That Show the Problems

    As long as the justice system revolves around profitability an meeting quotas, there can never be justice.

    Our system is broken for anyone who can't afford a good lawyer.

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    Re: For-Profit Prisons: Eight Statistics That Show the Problems

    A thousand times yes. End the war on drugs as well, a total failure.
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    Re: For-Profit Prisons: Eight Statistics That Show the Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    That is exactly right, I rest my case. I ask, if all that you say is in the report why was there "NO Recommendation" to correct anything.
    Throughout this thread you have come off as a good compliant little drone who blindly accepts whatever the government tells him. This post confirms it.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: For-Profit Prisons: Eight Statistics That Show the Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Because with the way the law works now, it's not correctable.
    "It's not correctable" then all this private run correction facility BS is all about nothing.
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