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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

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    sorry, not onboard with this latest outrage. i don't care if those who didn't benefit from trickle down buy captain crunch, and i also don't mind paying for it. ****, a bunch of my tax dollars have been diverted to fund all kinds of things i don't support. get over it, and have a happy new year.
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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    People should be upset about all of it... the problem is that there is nothing we can do about it.

    I hate to parallel politics with conspiracy but it is just a huge machine used to take people's money and make some in power rich.
    i get what you're saying, but that's a bit of an oversimplification. after all, i could dismiss capitalism itself with those exact words.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i get what you're saying, but that's a bit of an oversimplification. after all, i could dismiss capitalism itself with those exact words.
    You mean you could dismiss mixed economy welfare states.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    You mean you could dismiss mixed economy welfare states.
    his words :

    it is just a huge machine used to take people's money and make some in power rich.
    that could be used to dismiss about anything, even society itself. reality is much more nuanced.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    No, they wouldn't. Convenience stores don't have that kind of room. Big grocery stores that do are generally not located in low income areas.
    This idea isn't looking out for the financial welfare of convenience stores. It's about the health and welfare of the people the program is intended to help.

    You also need to realistically look at ingredients. Even a gallon of milk has multiple ingredients. A bag of noodles has many ingredients.
    This would be discussed when the list of eligibles was devised.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    This idea isn't looking out for the financial welfare of convenience stores. It's about the health and welfare of the people the program is intended to help.
    Of course not, but I think a little research into the concept of a food desert would enlighten the debate a bit. People in these neighborhoods don't have access to these "bulk ingredients."



    This would be discussed when the list of eligibles was devised.
    Which really just puts us right back where we are. None of it is simple, and who's going to "devise" the list? Congress. There goes your idea.


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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Of course not, but I think a little research into the concept of a food desert would enlighten the debate a bit. People in these neighborhoods don't have access to these "bulk ingredients."

    Which really just puts us right back where we are. None of it is simple, and who's going to "devise" the list? Congress. There goes your idea.
    Is obesity a big issue for the country? If so, shouldn't we at least be doing something to curb it... and not be making it worse? I mean eight of the top ten poorest states are also the fattest. I'm not even sure how that happened, since you should be scratching for food at that point... (not that I want that, but you know what I mean.)

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Of course not, but I think a little research into the concept of a food desert would enlighten the debate a bit. People in these neighborhoods don't have access to these "bulk ingredients."
    It's a bit of a chicken-or-egg debate there. If suddenly the only way to redeem of a food stamp was to do it in exchange for those basics, would we expect consumer demand at these areas to shift?

    Which really just puts us right back where we are. None of it is simple, and who's going to "devise" the list? Congress. There goes your idea.
    So we're at the mercy of Congress at all times, and there's no point in the people demanding change?

    Let's just assume hypothetically that the issue went up for a nation-wide democratic vote. For what reason, really, would you vote no?

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Although I am not opposed to restricting purchase of soda and/or candy with SNAP, that's pretty much it and only because there is basically very little to no nutritional value to these. Other than that, I don't think it would be right or cost saving or work.

    Restricting food purchases to what is described in the OP is simply not a practical idea. Most of the reasons have already been mentioned. Not everyone has the time to make made from scratch meals for their household most days, let alone every day. And that would be time they could be spending working, going to school/working on schoolwork, or looking for work rather than preparing meals in order to get them off assistance. Plus, there is the fact that not all places sell bulk items or are very limited in what bulk items are sold and that these aren't always the cheapest purchases just because of them being in bulk. Plus, not everyone is able to store bulk items properly, which could easily cause more waste. Then there is food allergies and diseases that affect a person's dietary needs to take into account as well. Some people cannot eat certain foods that make up a large amount of most food items already due to either allergies or conditions. By limiting further what they can purchase, this could severely limit their ability to stay healthy in general, depending on availability within their area.
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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Not if you go generic route, which most of the above would be applying to. I'm personally for generics and limit them it to healthy stuff. At least this is one way that we can start tackling the overweight issue in the country. If you want irony: Mississippi, the poorest state in the country, is also the fattest.

    In fact, the five poorest states are also among the 10 fattest, and eight of the 10 poorest states are also among the 10 with the lowest life expectancy.
    Yes because the more poor you are the less healthy or natural foods you can afford. Fresh foods cost more than processed foods.
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