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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    It's not about a list of banned items so much as a simple delineating between single-ingredient items and processed/packaged items.
    That sounds political, or at least politically that is how will be how it will be viewed.



    You can make virtually anything using ingredients listed in my proposal.
    Then there isnt any excuse for your plan, it will easily be refuted by pointing out that the same type of food can be ate using Snap.



    The likely health benefit is actually incidental. The point of a food assistance program is to mitigate any hunger or starvation risks. I think my proposal accomplishes it better than our current shopping spree model.
    many will argue that you are just trying to make it harder for people using SNAP which will never fly as a policy.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    there is absolutely no basis for such a slippery slop argument
    Really? ANd no dangers of a nanny state at all?

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    What about WholeFoods and other specialty stores?
    If they are more expensive than your average store then no.They they shouldn't be allowed to take EBT.
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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If they are more expensive than your average store then no.They they shouldn't be allowed to take EBT.
    But what is "average"? Walmart vs Anthropolgie?
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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Then there isnt any excuse for your plan, it will easily be refuted by pointing out that the same type of food can be ate using Snap.
    The point of my proposal isn't to control what people eat. It's to meet the goal of the program more efficiently and common sensibly.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Really? ANd no dangers of a nanny state at all?
    It doesn't interfere with personal choice and it isn't overly protective. Nannies would prepare food for the wee ones, whereas adults would buy ingredients and make food for themselves and their families. If anything, our current system is more of a nanny, for viewing adult level responsibilities as way too much to expect from adults just because they don't happen to have a lot of money.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    At the very least healthy foods.
    I don't disagree, but that will cost more.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't disagree, but that will cost more.
    no it really doesn't and I already provided one example

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    We need a better solution.
    The better solution is to tell these assholes to **** off every time they start up with this crap. It doesn't have anything to do with health or even saving money-- they just want to make poor people more miserable because it makes them feel better about their own lives.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    The better solution is to tell these assholes to **** off every time they start up with this crap. It doesn't have anything to do with health or even saving money-- they just want to make poor people more miserable because it makes them feel better about their own lives.
    lol, the only response anyone can seemingly give here on why this is a bad idea is to attack the people proposing it. I imagine most people are seeing it the same way I am :that there is little justification for subsidizing people indulging in overly priced convenience foods that do little to nothing to address actual nutritional needs.

    I'm sorry you guys feel entitled to cheezy poofs and kool-aid.

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    Re: Should we restrict food stamps to bulk staples and basic ingredients?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    The better solution is to tell these assholes to **** off every time they start up with this crap. It doesn't have anything to do with health or even saving money-- they just want to make poor people more miserable because it makes them feel better about their own lives.
    1. I certainly wouldn't deny that some people definitely get a vindictive sense of self-righteousness messing with the lives of others. There is a strong swathe of people in our society who assume that they know better than others how those lives should be lived.

    2. People on Public Assistance are there because for one reason or another they were unable to provide for or make excellent decisions for themselves. By taking provision they are admitting that they have not lived their lives in such a way as to provide for themselves (whether through lack of will or ability). If the the rest of the country are offering provision, those who receive it really don't have much of a leg to stand on to insist that others not make any of that receipt conditional upon the terms of its' use.



    Full Disclosure: My own policy proposal would likely exacerbate, rather than reduce this problem.

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